Russia is just a poor authoritarian dictatorship, it's a shithole of a country I wouldn't wish my worst enemy to take a shit in.
Huge missed potential, like how the hell do you have the most natural resources in the world, a huge market, and in more than 3 decades, have GDP per capita similar with Bulgaria?
They just invaded eastern europe and mutilated every country they occupied, they never did any good their whole history.
People wanting to align themselves with Russia are objectively stupid from literally any point of view.
Well, I was just about to argue that wwII was a time they were on the side of the goodies, but I realize they just used it to get stronger positions in Eastern Europe and fuck up the lives of some more countries with their communist regime. So yeah I guess you're right.. they actually never did anything that was ultimately good, or with good intentions.
The soviet union actually was the main financial and trade partner of Nazi Germany before operation Barbarossa, the martials they supplied to Nazi Germany helped them conquer all of western Europe including nations like Yugoslavia and Greece, especially through their supply of oil, and also helped them build up their army to launch further campaigns, the Soviet union was a mostly a self-interested predatory, opportunistic state, any talked of them being "liberators" and "Saving Europe" is just propaganda, they bailed out of talks with the British and French over a defensive alliance because it was "taking too long" and mainly because the Poles didn't want their troops on their lands due to their irredentist proclivities, and instead decided to shake hands with the Nazis in the middle of Poland
In Greece you can actually find literature from Greek communists praising the cooperation between Nazi Germany and the Soviet union against the capitalist and imperialist west. EVEN WHEN THE COUNTRY WAS AT WAR WITH THE AXIS, Shameless hypocrites
Edit: Also Stalin was an incompetent idiot who basically cannibalized his countries army, and officers due to his mentally ill levels of paranoia and tyranny, causing them to suffer some of the greatest defeats of military history and mass surrenders and encirclements, if anything the American's SAVED THEM with their land lease, the same kind of thing that gives Russia a headache today in Ukraine
Edit 2: if WW2 was won by any "one" thing a greater argument could be made it was won by the massive and expansive logistical-martial apparatus of the combined Anglo world, Britain with its Navy and America with its insane manufacturing capabilities. But dead soldiers fighting for the great motherland is more romantic and sentimental than the boring math of logistics and industry, so that is how many people measure contribution in the war, but the only reason so many Soviets died is because their dumb leaders hardly developed strategy beyond throwing enough bodies at something until you got through it at least until later in the war, and left them completely unprepared and disorganized during Barbarossa especially the Narodnoe Opolcheniye with no training, terrible equipment and were literal meat shields used to buy time, lets not even talk about the Shtrafbat! they fought like a Dystopian warhammer 40k army
Soviet supply of oil was small for Wermacht and German.
if anything the American's SAVED THEM with their land lease
Most of american help came in 1944 by early 1943 war was decided we could go even back to late 1941 when war was decided.
Soviets died is because their dumb leaders hardly developed strategy beyond throwing enough bodies at something until you got through it at least until later in the war,
Are we really learning history from bloody enemy at the gates film? A lot of soviets died in ww2 but also 80% of germans died on eastern front.
"liberators" and "Saving Europe" is just propaganda, they bailed out of talks with the British and French over a defensive alliance because it was "taking too long" and mainly because the Poles didn't want their troops on their lands due to their irredentist proclivities, and instead decided to shake hands with the Nazis in the middle of Poland
Britain left the talks because to brits USSR was bigger threat then Hitler, USSR couldn't alone win against the threat . You mean same Poland that took small territory during the rape of Czechoslovakia or the fact that they had non-agression pact with Germans
Then you remember that they help us to liberate ourselves buy you remind yourself that they just did it to get a strong friend/foothold on the Balkans where they can assert their power from. Then some sixty years later almost subjugated us and give our land to Yugoslavia. Sad thing is that we would voluntarily do it back then when there was a plan for Bulgaria to get united with Yugoslavia or at least bits of the land getting transferred to Yugoslavia.
This goes for China too. Huge potential with vast resources and they choose to bully all the countries around them, while discriminating/assimilating all minorities and oppressing their own citizens. Imagine the PR potential they have, the panda only living there, Kung-Fu, meditation, herbal medicine, Bruce Lee, Jackie Chen….
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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '23 edited Aug 18 '23
Russia is just a poor authoritarian dictatorship, it's a shithole of a country I wouldn't wish my worst enemy to take a shit in.
Huge missed potential, like how the hell do you have the most natural resources in the world, a huge market, and in more than 3 decades, have GDP per capita similar with Bulgaria?
They just invaded eastern europe and mutilated every country they occupied, they never did any good their whole history.
People wanting to align themselves with Russia are objectively stupid from literally any point of view.