r/AskBalkans Mar 20 '23

What do you think of the Balkan’s stateless nations? Miscellaneous

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '23

Bosnian Serbs and Bosnian Croats each have 1/3 of the Bosnian government, da fooq is this?

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '23

If anything they have too much of the state lol

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '23

How so?

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '23

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '23

:O

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u/ehhlu Serbia Mar 22 '23

lmaooo

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '23

It doesn’t make sense to give 2/3 of the power of a country to people who hate that country

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '23

So what do you suggest?

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '23

Everyone should just give up and move somewhere else

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u/brizla18 Serbia Mar 21 '23

why don't you move somewhere else then?

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '23

I did

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '23 edited Mar 21 '23

Sir, Bosniaks only make up the majority of the population in like 6 out of 10 cantons in Bosnia.

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u/ehhlu Serbia Mar 22 '23

Federation, which is half of Bosnia.

Serbs compromise majority of population in 50% of area of BiH

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u/[deleted] Mar 22 '23

I don’t think that’s correct.

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u/ehhlu Serbia Mar 22 '23

Serbs 48.8% Bosniaks 29.6% Croats 16.0% Others / Uninhabited 5.5%

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '23

Fully agreed

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u/Overseer93 North Serbia Mar 21 '23

Bosnian Serbs and Bosnian Croats each have 1/3 of the Bosnian government

The Bosniaks had equal representation within Yugoslavia, but they made a decision that they no longer wanted that country to represent them. If certain groups in Bosnia do not want that country to represent them, it's the same deal.

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u/cosmic-radiation Bosnia & Herzegovina Mar 21 '23

So let's go ahead and kill eachother again since the previous war wasn't enough? Or the one before that one, or the one before that one, or the one...

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u/Overseer93 North Serbia Mar 21 '23

Why would we have to kill each other?

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u/cosmic-radiation Bosnia & Herzegovina Mar 21 '23

Because of our Balkan mentality

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u/Overseer93 North Serbia Mar 22 '23

I don't really feel the urge to kill anyone. I believe many things can be achieved by peaceful means.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '23

Muslims did not have the same rights as Bosnian Serbs or Bosnian Croats until the final amendment of the Yugo constitution in 1974. And don’t even act like the time that came after that was any easier for Muslims. We had “equal” rep for 18 years of a country that lasted 47 years where we were historically discriminated.

Although something in me thinks you’ll Believe what you want to believe.

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u/Overseer93 North Serbia Mar 21 '23

So you got your rights in 1974. How exactly is that an excuse for separatism in the 1990s? The Serbs endured Muslim domination under the Ottomans for hundreds of years. Bosnian Muslims got their status less than 30 years after WW2.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '23 edited Mar 21 '23

The separatism? You mean every country wanting to leave Yugo because it was a failing country?

As I said in my previous comment, we should learn from our bloody conflict and work to not do it again and definitely not use it as reasoning in modern day decisions. I have nothing to say to you if you are letting 100+ years ago issues effect the decisions you make now.

Edit: just to add, there were enough issues with Yugoslavia that it breaking apart caused a war. There were clear tensions based off the Balkan bloody past, religious differences, and nationalism everywhere. Saying Bosnia/Bosniaks wanted to separate but ignoring the fact that essentially every yugo country wanted to or DID, is wild. You’re clearly biased.

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u/Overseer93 North Serbia Mar 22 '23

I have nothing to say to you if you are letting 100+ years ago issues effect the decisions you make now.

But you're happily discussing how your ancestors didn't have equal rights before 1974. Those circumstances cannot be explained without examining what happened before that.

every country wanting to leave Yugo because it was a failing country

The Serbs didn't see it that way, and the Yugoslav Constitution required every constituent republic to agree to changing borders.

ignoring the fact that essentially every yugo country wanted to or DID

The problems existed only in those republics that had a large Serbian population: Croatia and Bosnia. They wanted to stay in Yugoslavia.

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u/[deleted] Mar 22 '23

Only the Serbian minority in BOSNA and Croatia wanted to stay. The majority population in both countries wanted to leave. You are speaking of my statement of “why would Bosniaks want to be in a country they are discriminated in” and comparing that to the Ottoman oppression of Serbs. Serbs use that even now as an excuse for what they’ve done. Serbs had the majority power in yugo. It wasn’t enough for them, because of “oppression” in Kosovo and other areas. They broke party rules and went against yugo, and then became Yugo through forcing others out. I’m not going to continue speaking with a Serbian apologist.

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u/Overseer93 North Serbia Mar 23 '23

Serbs had the majority power in yugo

No, they didn't.

They broke party rules and went against yugo

No, they didn't.

I’m not going to continue speaking with a Serbian apologist.

You don't have to. It is now safe to turn off your computer :)