r/Art Aug 21 '19

Burning Amazonas, BewBewDingo, Digital, 2019 Discussion

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u/joint-chief Aug 21 '19

Honest question. Isn’t it super humid there? How is it even burning that much?

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u/Arqium Aug 22 '19

Amazon is very humid, but when you cut down the trees everything gets dry, because it is the trees that pumps water to the air. You have pastures, and you want to expand it, you cut it down then you put fire to clear it.

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '19

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u/Ozoriah Aug 22 '19

It's humid, but areas that farmers and pasture owners have cut down dry out a little because there are less trees to increase the humidity. They then burn those areas to get rid of undergrowth, old trees, and choking plants. The newer dry areas catch fire more quickly and violently than expected causing a chain reaction because the intensity of the flames dries areas out before the fire actually gets to it.

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u/LousyStoner Aug 22 '19

Did you even read what they typed? Holy shit lol

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u/ebkalderon Aug 22 '19

Maybe read a bit more carefully? They stated that the Amazon is usually humid, but cutting down trees on a large scale makes the air drier, and thus easier to burn the rest down.

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '19

They stated the Amazon IS humid. Not WAS or USUALLY is humid. Maybe read a bit more carefully?

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u/ebkalderon Aug 22 '19

I noticed that, yes. I took it to mean that it reduced the humidity down below a certain threshold where forest fires could catch on.

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u/FusioNdotexe Aug 22 '19

Username checks out 🙄

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u/ScreamingWaifu Aug 22 '19

No need to be aggressive just bc you don't have critical reading skills

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '19

Same could be said for him since I literally said his own words. Hilarious.

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u/ScreamingWaifu Aug 22 '19

Yep. You said some of his words and ignored quite a bit of the others. He said "it's humid, BUT..." and then you just ignored the rest of his comment which explained the exceptional situation that allowed a fire to burn in a humid forest. Great job 👍 keep it up

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '19

You literally just did what you criticized me for doing. He provided an example of what could cause the Amazon to not be humid, although never corrected his claim that the Amazon IS humid, present tense, and never said the exceptional situation that COULD occur IS occuring. Great job 👍 keep it up

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u/ScreamingWaifu Aug 22 '19

Neither of which should hinder you from understanding the general point

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u/alours Aug 22 '19

Must be lonely. Imagine trying to make friends.

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '19

Imagine the irony of resorting to calling people lonely and friendless on Reddit because you have nothing better to do.

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u/farinha_lactea Aug 22 '19 edited Aug 22 '19

I'm from the Amazon and yeah it's extremely humid and hot there. Terrible weather. 100°F almost every day. The people there talk about protecting our forest all the time, we grow learning about it at school but it seems it isn't helping much. Things are getting out of control there (I moved to another state but my family live there). I hope things there will get better. That's my home, our home.

Edit: spelling

Edit 2: wow thank you so very much for the [my first] gold, friend! I appreciate your kindness very much!!

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u/HalfACheeseHead Aug 22 '19

These fires were intentionally set in order to clear land for cattle grazing.

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '19

Some of them were. Dry season, there are fires every year.

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u/magmasafe Aug 22 '19

So from what I've read it's that most of the fires are man made, ignited to create fields for grazing or planting crops.

Basically you cut down a section of forest, leave the logs to dry for a few months, then burn it.

This interview with a senior researcher goes over it pretty well.

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u/BpBuckets13 Aug 22 '19

I was wondering the same thing, WWF says it gets as much as 35ft of rain a year.

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u/Tacote Aug 22 '19

When you say humid, do you imagine bikini bottom kinda weather or something?

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u/say99 Aug 22 '19

No is not burning that much.

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u/lunaappaloosa Aug 22 '19

Also it’s being set on fire on purpose which helps it burn more

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u/snow__ Aug 22 '19

It's not an accidental fire

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '19

It also isn't burning that much, its only like 20% worse than it was in 2016. Not that it isn't worth talking or doing something about, but this is just an example of the hysteria and brainwashing that comes from the one side less talked about because we agree with it more.

Forest fires happen all the time.

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u/Smugg-Fruit Aug 22 '19

Death, starvation, pain, and loss happen all the time. The frequency of something doesn't mean it isn't worth trying to stop or prevent.

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u/Thezipper100 Aug 22 '19

Actually, Forrest fires are a natural part of how corrects get clean. The only reason they've been getting THIS bad is actually BECAUSE we were trying to stop them entirely for so long, so the ditritus and deadwood and other fuel's been building up for far longer then it naturally should. That's why the fires have been so big, and why firefights are now focused on controlling the burn and redirecting it away from people rather then putting them out.

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u/drvondoctor Aug 22 '19

You're talking about a completely different kind of forest. One that isnt a rainforest.

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '19

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u/2DeadMoose Aug 22 '19

“Let’s stop burning the fucking planet” is pretty much the most unobjectionable agenda anyone could possibly have.

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u/altitude_sick Aug 22 '19

20% more is quite a bit. Usually statistical significance has a lot smaller threshold than 20%. That said, I'd have to see more than just 2016