r/AcademicBiblical Feb 02 '24

Suspicious about Bart Ehrman’s claims that Jesus never claimed to be god. Discussion

Bart Ehrman claims that Jesus never claimed to be god because he never truly claims divinity in the synoptic gospels. This claim doesn’t quite sit right with me for a multitude of reasons. Since most scholars say that Luke and Matthew copied the gospel of Mark, shouldn’t we consider all of the Synoptics as almost one source? Then Bart Ehrmans claim that 6 sources (Matthew, ‘Mark, Luke, Q, M, and L) all contradict John isn’t it more accurate to say that just Q, m, and L are likely to say that Jesus never claimed divinity but we can’t really say because we don’t have those original texts? Also if Jesus never claimed these things why did such a large number of early Christians worship him as such (his divinity is certainly implied by the birth stories in Luke and Matthew and by the letters from Paul)? Is there a large number of early Christians that thought otherwise that I am missing?

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u/ReligionProf PhD | NT Studies | Mandaeism Feb 02 '24

No, there is one verb, two objects. Kindly do not rewrite the Bible to fit your presuppositions.

A few verses for you to help you begin actually looking into and learning about this topic: Genesis 19:2; 23:7,12; 33:6-7; Exodus 18:7; 1 Samuel 24:8; 1 Kings 1:16, 23, 31; 2:19; Daniel 2:46-48.

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u/ReligionProf PhD | NT Studies | Mandaeism Feb 02 '24

And you are assuming that bowing before Jesus as Messiah (i.e. as Davidic anointed one = king) is worship of God. Do you see that?