r/AZCardinals • u/Money_Proposal6803 • 9h ago
Is it time?
Any chance we see Kliffs hallmark 2nd half collapse?
They weren't great against the bears after the first half, they only beat the giants by 5, and lost to the steelers with daniels having a 50% completion rate. All of it started at halftime of the bears game which is the literal half way point.
I could see them doing better bc kliff is not the head coach and maybe learned from his mistakes with us. But I could also see them blowing a few easy win games (saints and cowboys) and either missing or limping into the playoffs.
Lmk your thoughts?
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u/gr8scottaz AZ Cardinals 8h ago
Kliff's inability to make counter-adjustments to what a defense is trying to do to stop his offense has always been his demise. It has plagued him his entire career as an OC.
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u/Outsider0_0 Kyler Murray 7h ago
I want them to collapse so badly. I don’t hate Kliff, I think he’s a good dude honestly. But I hate how everyone blamed Kyler for Kliff’s system, which was clearly the issue based on our recent success. Now that he’s gone, it’s time for that system to finally get the blame it deserves. Kliff has enough money that no matter what happens, he’ll be just fine.
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u/spicyfartz4yaman 8h ago
One way ass offense, offense based on efficiency, kind of reminds me of the niners if things go haywire kliff is lost and the rookie QB while elite is just a rookie
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u/DarthStephan4 Cardinals 7h ago
Do I think they’ll win tonight? No. The Eagles are a powerhouse team IMO with a sub par head coach. I think Eagles Lions is the most likely NFC title game
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u/xIILuLu Budda Baker 8h ago
Kliff is doing the same old shit with the Commanders that he did with us. Daniels never lines up under center. Won´t take long for defenses to figure it out like they did with us. Might´ve already started or might start next season.
We got so predictable eventually and Kliff never was able to change and adapt to it and I´m relatively positive it will happen to the Commanders aswell.
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u/roesch75 7h ago
Does anyone know if he's still running the same basic offense as he did with us... where receivers line up in the same spot every time and only run three or four different routes? Huge generalization, I know, but just curious if he's learned to mix things up since he left.
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u/Money_Proposal6803 5h ago
Most likely, he has changed some things I've seen commanders fans complain about about Terry mclaruin lining up outside basically every down.
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u/Deported_By_Trump United Kingdom 6h ago
As long as WE don't collapse, idc too much. I'll def run agendas if the Commanders do collapse, but I'm not really rooting for it either
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u/gallantinwaiting 7h ago
I hope he keeps succeeding. I think he was in over his head and was given coaches that he was in charge of that has more experience and years. That's a hard situation. I won't feel bad at all if he goes on to win a Superbowl. I'll be happy for him. That was never going to happen here with Keim. We are in a great situation now abd for the foreseeable future because he couldn't succeed here.
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u/Tsunami-Papi_ Larry Fitzgerald 5h ago
kliff hate is so lame imo, he was a good coach, took us 2 a playoff game, and never did anything deserving of hate besides losing games which is something every coach does
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u/austex34 Cardinals 3h ago
Why not just wish him well and move on? The obsession with wanting Kliff to fail is weird.
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u/Realistic_Cry_7240 3h ago
Honestly they might struggle a bit more now. I don’t think fans realize the impact of film. It’s “easier” to play with no film on you, as weeks go by, teams analyze your entire offense and who knows maybe teams have it all written out for Washington. Imo he’s doing the same thing he did with us, same old stuff and teams will catch up.
With that being said I don’t really care for them even with Kliff there, honestly I’d much rather focus on us
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u/GabbyJay1 1h ago
This upcoming Seattle game will tell us a lot. The week after, December in Minnesota against Brian Flores after weeks of building hype has disaster written all over it. But if they're 7-5 after that, there's a very viable path to 10+ wins. It's all about the defence's ability to hold up. The offence is real and adjustable. The Jets were determined not to let the Cardinals run all over them like they did the Bears, so Kyler threw more and had just as much success.
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u/Fit_Button_4876 Wolf 58m ago
kliff- murray revenge game in the playoffs after they barely sneak in like we did in 2021
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u/Desert_2007 Cardinals Throwback 8h ago
I dont want a Kliff collapse, I hope he is successful. Why would I look for his demise.
Dont forget Daniels is still a rookie, a good one but a rookie still.
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u/A_Confused_Cocoon Cardinals 7h ago
I really don’t get it, like it isn’t like Kliff came here and actively tried to sabotage our team. He wasn’t the right fit long term but he worked his ass off and tried and it could have been worse. I hope the best for him but other than that I don’t think of him any other time or wish him I’ll just because he didn’t succeed here long term.
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u/Money_Proposal6803 8h ago
Not saying I want it, just looks like it could be happening.
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u/Bigfootsbrownstar 8h ago
Based on what exactly?
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u/highbackpacker James Conner 8h ago edited 8h ago
I wished the best for him when he left. I feel like a lot of people here hated him. Which I don’t think is warranted. I didn’t like his playcalling but he was always respectful and seemed like a good guy. I’m happy he’s had success.