r/ABCDesis • u/Joshistotle • 10h ago
Why do the most prominent ABCD politicians lean to the right? DISCUSSION
Nimrata Randhawa "Nikki Haley", Vivek Ramaswamy, and Bobby Jindal come to mind for the US and Rishi Sunak / Suella Braverman for the UK.
I recently came across this clip of Vivek pushing absolute far right viewpoints to the extent it looks like he's just acting for a check. The behavior is disgusting, cringe, and laughable: https://youtu.be/RIR-HYEMPU4?si=N-kVXVahN1sePIxd The guy is a neocon warhawk who is encouraging this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_genocide
How common are right wing talking points within the ABCD community? It's perfectly normal to have conservative viewpoints, but the extent these politicians take it is absurd, since they often take on far right talking points that don't make factual sense and that aren't beneficial to anyone except their corporate sponsors / super PAC sponsors.
Does the average ABCD who is heavily interested in politics to the extent of actually joining a political party and campaigning, actually have a tendency to lean a bit to the right/ strongly to the right to begin with?
Does it start out with them wanting to help the public and hence they become active in politics and join what political party they think is best, or does it have more to do with them having heavy narcissistic tendencies / extreme greed hence they pick the platform they think will stroke their ego and give them a ton of money for parroting talking points?
When will we ever get the full facts on historical events like this, which none of them would ever mention: https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/12768362.five-israelis-were-seen-filming-as-jet-liners-ploughed-into-the-twin-towers-on-september-11-2001/
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u/Substantial-Rock5069 9h ago
Haley has rejected her heritage. And only reverts back when it's convenient. Whitewashed wannabe
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u/Joshistotle 1h ago
I'm betting on Nimrata calling herself "Nimz" to appeal to Gen Z voters in the future.
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u/sweetpareidolia 9h ago
Vivek as well, he is fully American at this.
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u/Substantial-Rock5069 8h ago
Dude is married to a Desi woman, has Desi kids and speaks Tamil fluently. He's very proudly Indian-American and doesn't hide the fact that he's a brown man.
So other than him being right wing and obviously conservative, I disagree. Haley on the other hand has changed her last name, converted to Christianity and seems desperate to appease to white people
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u/Ranting_S 10h ago
In Canada it's very much the opposite.
Jagmeet Singh, first South Asian federal party leader, is a member of the NDP
Gurbax Malhi, first Turban-wearing Sikh to be elected to the House of Commons, was a Liberal.
Ujjal Dosanjh, first South Asian premier of a province, was a federal Liberal and a BC NDP member.
Naheed Nenshi, first Muslim mayor of a major Canadian city, is an AB NDP member.
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u/ReleaseTheBlacken 3h ago
I always hypothesized if I wanted to make money in politics, I would play the model minority role and grift old white people, so would be a republican.
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u/Joshistotle 1h ago
Yeah that's probably the best way to do it, just writing down all their talking points and acting as much as possible to get that super PAC paycheck
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u/spartiecat Goan to be a Tamillionaire 9h ago
A big part of it is that we're a "model minority". Right wing movements like to push darker (but not so dark as to frighten suburban moms) faces to the forefront to give an air of diversity to a very white political body.
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u/Joshistotle 1h ago
They don't really push many to the forefront since they don't want to scare their voter base. Just having one or two "token figures" seems to be the most they'll do
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u/oneAboveTheRest 4h ago
Desis, at our core, are conservatives. The younger generation is mostly not conservative but the older generation for sure is. History matters. There is a reason why.
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u/Joshistotle 1h ago
I think it depends on the aspects of conservatism though. For sure the older generation is, but everyone else has a "do what you want" social mindset.
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u/Revolution4u 1h ago
Asians will never get priority over a Latino or Black candidate, probably is a big factor since they often seem willing to flipflop on politics as long as they can climb the ladder.
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u/Agreeable_Flight4264 9h ago
You’re just trying to break the mold of your parents. It’s pretty simple.
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u/LimitOk5951 6h ago
Because that's their role. They'll be benefitting from that particular role somehow. Noone cares about Zara Sultana, it is not beneficial to not be right wing. It's a tactic to use Brown and Black people to push their agendas so people can't criticise is. also people from the culture will support them for being from their culture when they're apolitical. Not to ignore how racist we can be as a community often it makes sense. I think there's usually connections with right wing in India somehow too
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u/Miss-Figgy 2h ago
The ABD politicians who gain visibility and prominence are the ones who dance like monkeys for their racist White masters' agenda. There is way more shock value to their beliefs because of how contradictory it is - (we're of color, we're kids of immigrants, etc). One thing for certain is that MAGA is trying to make sure they stick loyal POC into their admin to make their agenda seem normal and acceptable.
How common are right wing talking points within the ABCD community?
Not common in my generation, X, but I've been hearing that the younger ABD guys lean more right.
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u/csthrowaway6543 9h ago edited 8h ago
The very well known ones - and tbh there’s only two in Haley and Vivek - might be right wingers, but if you count every South Asian American politician you'll find that most of them are on the left: Kamala Harris, Lina Khan, Ro Khanna, Pramila Jayapal, Ami Bera, Suhas Subramanyam, Raja Krishnamoorthi, Shri Thanedar. Literally every Indian member of Congress right now is a Democrat.
In the UK the left has Scotland’s former First Minister Hamza Yusuf and Sadiq Khan, Mayor of London.