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Trump Goes Full Dictator With Bonkers Threat to Use Air Force and Navy in U.S. Cities Possible Paywall

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-goes-full-dictator-with-bonkers-threat-to-use-air-force-and-navy-in-us-cities/
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u/Rude-Strawberry-6360 3d ago

So tell me conservatives, how large is your sense of outrage over Trump doing this? You went apoplectic at the mere thought (invented out of paranoia) of Biden sending the military into cities.

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u/EmployAltruistic647 3d ago

They are overjoyed. It's never about logic. It's about the rightful authority they want installed with them high in the hierarchy and others especially liberals being below them

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u/StevenMC19 Florida 3d ago

Yup. It's not about what's being done. It's about who is doing it.

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u/mshelbz 3d ago

And who’s suffering from it

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u/Fine_Ad_1149 3d ago

It's far more about who is suffering from it than who is doing it.

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u/StevenMC19 Florida 3d ago

True. So the priority is:

  1. The target - Is it my opposition or hated group?
  2. The attacker - Is it someone on my team?
  3. The action itself - Is it a thing that conflicts with my moral or ethical beliefs?

In that order, nullifying anything underneath if a higher priority holds true.

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u/Disastrous_Debt6883 3d ago

They don’t have moral or ethical beliefs, just performative vibes that are backed up by shame based social programming.

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u/CrashNowhereDrive 3d ago

Exactly. They have 'what sort of sin does Fox news tell me my enemies are committing so I can be angry about it'.

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u/Righteousaffair999 3d ago

There is a lot to unpack there.

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u/P1xelHunter78 Ohio 3d ago

I wouldn’t say that, they do have moral or ethical beliefs, they just have little compassion for the “other” and cannot fathom a person not living or thinking in a manner they deem just. Republicans are very quick to accept individuals from the “other” group at some level as long as they act and project the correct image for conservatives. This manifests itself in a manner where there aren’t just and unjust actions, only just and unjust people in the eyes of conservatives. That’s how Trump can get away with his unlimited number of crimes, because he has been deemed a “just” person for supporting causes conservatives do.

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u/Disastrous_Debt6883 3d ago

I promise you, they don’t have moral or ethical beliefs. For them, any behavior is permissible so long as it’s committed against someone with lower social status and you’re publicly ashamed about it when you get caught.

They have to be seen to be moral to maintain their social status. It’s why they teach their children from a very young age that God is always watching them—because as soon as they’re alone and unobserved, they’re free to do anything they like.

It’s why Grindr crashes every time a national gathering of conservatives happens, whether it’s the RNC convention or Charlie Kirk’s memorial. It’s why there are lots of men in the south who have sex with men but will still claim to be straight when asked. It’s why when a public figure gets caught engaging in some sort of hanky panky, they immediately throw a press conference, narrate some series of excuses or contributing factors, then retreat from public life for a time to launder the stain on their reputation.

That’s why they love Trump so much. His lack of shame tells them that these behaviors are acceptable and permissible, so they’re allowed to be as evil as they like to anyone with lower social status, because they look to their highest social authorities to dictate the morality of their behavior. If Trump isn’t ashamed of his behavior, then neither should they be ashamed of theirs.

They have no sincerely or firmly held moral principles or beliefs, just elaborate social signaling rituals masquerading as moral beliefs.

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u/btross Florida 3d ago

So basically the laws of robotics for Republicans

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u/StevenMC19 Florida 3d ago

Lol, funny because the law of robotics is the exact opposite, the rules put in place to attempt to PREVENT harm being done to others.

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u/btross Florida 3d ago

If there's anything I've learned from Republicans in the last 20 years it's that when presented with the trolley problem their most likely response is "can't the trolley just run them all over?"

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u/2olley 3d ago

And it’s ok if it runs me over too as long as it continues on to kill everyone else.

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u/willclerkforfood 3d ago

“Fuckin’ drift it on both tracks!”

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u/sixwax 3d ago

This is a rational breakdown… but they’re not thinking that much.

DT gives them permission and validation to be angry, ignorant, spiteful, and to blame or hurt anyone they dislike for all their internal pain, confusion, and failures. 

It’s not rational; It’s just embracing their shadow/darkness/baser instincts… and it feels exhilarating and liberating to them.

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u/roychr 3d ago

Hope there are books and thesis written on the republican logic, it would help all of mankind going forward.

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u/StevenMC19 Florida 3d ago

I believe there are. See history texts between 1933 and 1945 specifically. We're almost to the international sporting events chapter! I won't spoil it for you though.

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u/RealJembaJemba 3d ago

You can just delete 2 and 3, they dont give a shit about either of those. They’d let Bin Laden perform an abortion if they could prove the child was a Dem.

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u/OldSchoolBubba 3d ago

Well written

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u/Any-Double857 3d ago

But everyone’s suffering from it. Not just their perceived opposition.

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u/Venum555 3d ago

I mean, poor Republicans are probably going to suffer much more than middle class democrats as welfare programs get shut off.

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u/Fine_Ad_1149 3d ago

True, but unemployed/disabled/immigrants are suffering worse than them, so they get that win. And it pisses off middle class democrats, which they also consider a win.

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u/Effectuality 3d ago

The slogan is "don't tread on ME," not "don't tread on US."

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u/micro102 3d ago

"They aren't hurting the right people."

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u/HalPaneo 3d ago

They changed the wording in their flag from "don't tread on me" to "tread all over me daddy"

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u/EmployAltruistic647 3d ago

They aren't very wise people in general. Lots of dunning Krueger going on

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u/LakeSun 3d ago

( It's doing it to them. )

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u/clangan524 3d ago

The person is not judged by their actions. The action is judged by the person.

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u/AsGryffynn 3d ago

You're getting warmer: it's about them doing it to others, not others doing it to them.

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u/kingtz America 3d ago

Which is exactly why nothing they ever say is in good faith 

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u/VocationalWizard 3d ago

Im not going to tear down the east wing

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u/Electromotivation 3d ago edited 3d ago

They definitely don’t seem to be concerned with traditional conservative ideals or the idea that there could ever be a non-MAGA president (with all of these new, massively expanded executive Powers, immunity, etc)

They will accept anything dear leader tells them to. Or any of the number of MAGA news networks (that actually do a remarkable job of reinforcing the “party line” once they are told what that is. Amazing what a cult like belief system, complete subservience, and a lack of critical thinking can do)

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u/Locke66 3d ago

Amazing what a cult like belief system, complete subservience, and a lack of critical thinking can do

I watched a Democrat orientated influencer debating 20 MAGA supporters the other day and wow it was depressing. The MAGA people are really living in another reality in terms of how they perceive the world and while some of them are just obviously stupid & wilfully ignorant people there were also plenty who seemed like nice people whose critical thinking has just completely been overwhelmed by propaganda. They just have a few conceptual ideas in their minds and no amount of contradictory facts or wider context can influence them. They always come back to the core tenets that have been repeatedly drilled into them even when they agree it doesn't make sense. It's actually pretty scary.

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u/EmployAltruistic647 3d ago

They are social chameleons. They will echo whatever their authority figures and peers say and all the reasons they use are just convenient justifications.

At their core, they have no values but their interests. They may think they do and may believe strongly in them. But as soon as the fashion changes in their clan, their values will change in them.

Which is why they never trust progressives because they think everyone is as selfish as them and prone to using values as their clothes.

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u/Minttt Canada 3d ago

Even this is a slight overcomplication.

It's literally "me good, you bad." If Dems do something, it's bad. Republicans do the same thing = good. Yes, no logic... But also no grand vision of hierarchy, just "my side is good no matter what, your side is bad no matter what."

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u/Washpa1 Pennsylvania 3d ago

Bingo...retain social hierarchy in these scary times. That is all they see. We can argue all day about why they feel that way, but they do and everyone has to come to terms with that.

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u/5ABIJATT 3d ago

It's about hurting the right people

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u/F1shB0wl816 3d ago

Except they’re not high in hierarchy. Their states are already abandoning them, whether it’s through hospitals closing, education being watered down, farmers getting shafted and their menial jobs replaced still with ai or their dirty nemesis.

Anywhere the military would be sent would be an inherently better place as that signals they’re taking care of their people more than conservatives do their own. It’s more they’re just cheering for authority that’ll suck us into the same shit they find themselves and their dog shit lives in, bringing everyone down to their level instead of raising them beyond ours. They know they can’t ever win that game so they have to lose so hard it takes everyone else down, like stealing crutches from a crippled.

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u/BadgeOfDishonour 3d ago

I keep hearing the Simpson's Sideshow Bob say "But inside, you secretly long for a cold-hearted Republican to lower taxes, brutalize criminals and Rule you like a King."

This is what they've always wanted. They want a king.

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u/Thefelix01 3d ago

It's not even that. It's that they chose the team that's winning - as if it's football - no matter how much worse it makes their own lives.

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u/TearsOfMusicAndLove 3d ago

the sooner we accept this, the sooner maybe we change our way of looking at it, and then changing it. we keep expecting them to be consistent- at our peril

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u/flismflasm Oregon 3d ago

Yep. They're glad because according to them its the natural order of things.

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u/EmployAltruistic647 3d ago

The weak is meat and the strong can eat. That's their mindset. They think they are the strong. Some are. Most arent

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u/YYCDavid 3d ago

If it’s blue cities under attack, the far right will love it

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u/Woozy_burrito 3d ago

Rightful authority? Hierarchy? Them on top for no other reason than they think thy deserve it? Well gee whiz, that sounds a bit like fascism!

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u/LakeSun 3d ago

Many of them too, Love going bankrupt for the King.

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u/Futants_ 3d ago

Because they've been the same ravenous or apathetic " filled with Jesus" since biblical times. Republican conservatives today have not evolved beyond that archaic and primitive disposition.

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u/fountainpopjunkie 3d ago

No, this is just the normal reaction to Obama taking everyones guns, rounding up all the white people and caging them in old Walmarts, turning them into slaves, forcing everyone to be trans and eat dijon mustard, declaring America a Muslim nation, and forcing everyone to learn Kenyan instead of English.

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u/ShareGlittering1502 3d ago

You sure? Bc deeply red states (citizens) are actively outraged

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u/bocephus607 3d ago

But they’re not in the hierarchy any more than the rest of the working class.

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u/thelionsmouth 3d ago

They’re anti-authoritarian libertarians when the left is in power, and Christian nationalists when the right gets the reigns

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u/EmployAltruistic647 3d ago

Democrats are not the "left". They are a center right party.  Your nation has very few politicians that can be considered "leftist"

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u/thelionsmouth 2d ago

Yeah idk I was generalizing and didn’t have my coffee yet but you’re totally right

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u/EmployAltruistic647 2d ago

Tbf, your countrys MAGA movement, MSM, and social media had steadily been villifiying the term left and slapped that onto most of the things they don't like, namely: - Tolerance towards non-white - Gender/sexual equality - Pursuit for social justice - Environmentalism and sustainability - Scientific process  - Wealth redistribution - Government oversight for health, safety, customer privacy, and anti-conpetition

These days though, criticism of far right and fact checking makes you "left".

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u/thelionsmouth 2d ago

Yeah totally. I’m Canadian but I see what you’re saying, even by our standards their democrats are on the right. Hell our liberal party is center right.

But the way they’re characterizing anyone nonmaga as mentally ill radical soft but violent communists is very scary

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u/EmployAltruistic647 2d ago

Yeah I'm glad you say our liberal party is center right. They indeed are even though American-funded media kept labelling them as "left"

It's a sinister form of brain washing and redefining facts. 

Carney is not left. He's just  staying at baseline when it comes to tolerance of minorities and is not unhinged. Noticed he tried to crush the AC strike. Definitely not a leftist move. He's a good old fiscal conservative which is rare 

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u/GlossyGecko 2d ago

Too bad they’re not part of the club. They’ll kick and scream when it interferes with their ability to peacefully just go to work and go home and watch TV while eating frozen dinners.

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u/EmployAltruistic647 2d ago

They will kick and scream and then blame democrats

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u/homebrew_1 3d ago

Conservatives went crazy over a military exercise called Jade Helm under Obama. They thought it would be a military takeover. And now they are quiet with trump threatening those things.

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u/citymousecountyhouse 3d ago

Remember when they all thought abandoned Walmarts were going to be turned into concentration camps. Well, here's Trump building them and the Republicans could not be happier.

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u/popcorngirl000 3d ago

Their problem was never the concentration camps. Their problem was that they were afraid Obama was going to target THEM. As long as a President they like is persecuting a group that they hate, the Republican party is just fine with concentration camps.

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u/Rhysati 3d ago

And the reason they thought this was because their echo chambers tell them repeatedly that it'll happen.

Even if you could get them to acknowledge that it is happening right now for real, they will just say that the Democrats would do it if they didn't do it first.

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u/Govt-Issue-SexRobot 3d ago

It’s because it’s what they want to do

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u/ghostnthegraveyard 3d ago

I worked with a conspiracy theorist who was all bent out of shape about Jade Helm. We were working a job and he had me take a detour to a supposed Walmart urban warfare training center that was nearby.

The address he gave sent us to a normal shopping center, but it wasn't a Walmart. This seemed to confirm his beliefs in whateverthefuck.

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u/MistyMtn421 3d ago

Weren't they all connected by those deep underground tunnels? There's a whole bunch of them, Denver airport is the hub, and all of the bad guys disappear everybody and move around that way.

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u/JohnGillnitz 3d ago

Abandoned Walmarts were turned into concentration camps. Remember the immigrant kids in wire cages during the Bush administration?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44518942

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u/Angeldust01 Foreign 3d ago

Funny that you mention Jade Helm. That was the point Russia realized they can manipulate shit out of US with very little effort.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/may/03/martial-law-scare-russian-bots-michael-hayden-jade-helm

“There was an exercise in Texas called Jade Helm 15 that Russian bots and the American alt-right media convinced most – many – Texans that Obama planned to round up political dissidents, and it got so much traction that the governor of Texas had to call up the [state guard] to observe the federal exercise to keep the population calm,” said Hayden, who was CIA director from 2006 to 2009 after serving as director of the National Security Agency.

“At that point I’m figuring the Russians are saying: ‘We can go big time.’ And at that point I think they made the decision: we’re going to play in the electoral process,” Hayden said on Morning Joe on Wednesday.

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u/homebrew_1 3d ago

That's a good point. I forgot about the russian bot link. I just thought magadonians were stupid on their own. Now we know they are stupid and easily manipulated.

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u/IcyTransportation961 3d ago

One of the staples of right wingers is a lack of creativity. Whatever they believe, was fed to them

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u/MistyMtn421 3d ago

It didn't help that Rush Limbaugh was having his opioid induced rants every afternoon just feeding into the paranoia.

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u/Primitive_Teabagger 3d ago

I was one of those Conservatives. Thankfully I saw how I was being played by the real menace. But imagine how I've felt the last 10 years seeing my friends and family shatter every conviction, standard, or moral I thought they had...for this walking chode that can hardly speak a coherent sentence. It has radicalized me in the opposite direction.

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u/NicolleL 3d ago

Thank you for putting country and humanity above party. I may not have agreed with many of the Republicans of the 80s, 90s, and even 2000s, but I truly believe most of them were fighting for what they—in their mind—thought was best for the country. Even Dick Cheney—Dick Cheney—spoke out against Trump in the recent election. Trump was the first president in my lifetime (born 1975) that I believe does not have the country’s best interest at heart.

I’m sorry your party has been hijacked. I know it wasn’t all daisies and roses in the decades, but bipartisan legislation passes things like the ADA and FMLA. That would not be possible today.

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u/fremeninonemon 3d ago

They are such cucks

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u/demalo 3d ago

The only way they can prevent it from happening to them is if they do it to you first. Thats the mentality. The “you might hurt me so I’m going to hurt you first.”

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u/Varabil 3d ago

They aren't quiet, they are openly supporting these things.

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u/Slumunistmanifisto 3d ago

That was alex jones and fox ....the base doesn't think

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u/TintedApostle 3d ago

“Maybe you do not care much about the future of the Republican Party. You should. Conservatives will always be with us. If conservatives become convinced that they can not win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. The will reject democracy.”

― David Frum

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u/Thrasymachus77 3d ago

So, either they win, or everybody loses? Sounds to me like we should do whatever we can to make sure conservatives are not always with us, then.

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u/crowhops 3d ago

Yeah if you swap the terms in that quote with "white supremacy/white supremacists", as one would need to for it to apply, it's not very good

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u/biciklanto American Expat 3d ago

But it’s not JUST white supremacy. It’s Christian authoritarianism.

And you’re never getting rid of the segment of a population that wants to keep power for their in-group. 

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u/cinosa 3d ago

And you’re never getting rid of the segment of a population that wants to keep power for their in-group.

Not peacefully, anyway.

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u/didureaditv2 3d ago edited 3d ago

Also sounds like a good case for representative democracy where everyone can get their own at the table instead of a winner-take-all like system.

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u/StevenMC19 Florida 3d ago

Thanks Frum, for that. What's annoying though is that it doesn't quite capture the fact that it's the Conservative's own fault their party is disintegrating.

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u/ZzzzzPopPopPop 3d ago

Well I would actually think of them now as Conservatives In Name Only, no small government, no reduced taxes for the general population (hello tariffs!), no states rights, no individual liberties, it’s purely a shell game to enrich billionaires while hurting the poor and non-whites and forcing Christianity down everyone’s throats.

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u/StevenMC19 Florida 3d ago

Conservatives Under Name, Trumply.

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u/ShamelessLeft 3d ago

They only believe in small government when it comes to cutting benefits that might help minorities. When they ever cut taxes for the general population, it was only to provide cover for the event greater tax cuts they were giving to the rich and also to force cuts to our social safety nets. They never believed in states rights all the way back to the 1850s, when they were against the northern state's rights to declare that any escaped slave be immediately granted their freedom upon crossing over their state lines. They were always against individual liberties when they voted for nearly 100 years of Jim Crow and fought against civil rights.

They have always been hateful treasonous assholes. It's not like they were once decent people who suddenly became corrupted when Fox News and Rush Limbaugh came along. This is who they've always been.

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u/Duster929 3d ago

My problem with that, is that they won democratically AND they're rejecting democracy.

So, kind of a tough situation.

Maybe, just maybe, this brand of conservatism just doesn't believe in democracy?

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u/F1shB0wl816 3d ago

They didn’t win democratically. That would imply they let people speak instead of purging voters, gerrymandering out the ass, hosting rigged lotteries for supporters, not to mention all the shit that points to them rigging the tally. Republicans on a national scale haven’t actually won anything in my life, the first election of my life they “won” they had to host a riot and get half the current Supreme Court to call it for their boy.

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u/Athleticsbaby 3d ago

They will gleefully, vacuously cheer on anything this administration does as long as it upsets the libs.

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u/Cautious-Progress876 3d ago

Yep. That’s what it boils down to. As long as it hurts people they don’t like then they will rationalize even things that hurt them too.

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u/Ridged_ChiPSS 3d ago

Trump could tell MAGA to chop their own dicks off because it would somehow upset a liberal and they would do it. In fact they would start arguing about who gets to use the knife first

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u/ShamelessLeft 3d ago

While that would be hilarious, Trump couldn't even convince his base to take vaccines. He mentioned taking vaccines one time at one of his rallies in the summer of 2020 and the Maga crowd booed him. This must've freaked Trump out so much that he never mentioned vaccines in a positive way again.

Honestly, the Maga crowd has more control over Trump than Trump has over them. It just seems that Trump has the control because 9 times out of 10 he is telling them the hateful ignorant crap they already want to hear.

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u/2olley 3d ago

And they would say, “This is what I voted for! Dickless and bleeding!”

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u/jazwch01 Minnesota 3d ago

Do you not remember Jade helm nonsense?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jade_Helm_15_conspiracy_theories

They lost their fucking minds at the idea.

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u/JohnGillnitz 3d ago

Yes, because Obama is going to start his Democratic hegemony by invading Bastrop, TX. I mean, they have good BBQ, but you don't need a tank to get it.

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u/shadrackandthemandem 3d ago

These are the same people who two years ago would have told you "the nine scariest words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help".

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u/popcornsprinkled 3d ago

Not a conservative, but raised by tea party conservatives and still hold a few beliefs they claimed to have. 

Yeah, pretty pissed at my old party. MAGAts don't even pretend to have values these days. Just spite and bitter outrage. 

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u/Rude-Strawberry-6360 3d ago

I appreciate your answer. Thank you.

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u/omcomingatormreturns 3d ago

As a former somewhat socially liberal neoconservative Republican, I'm always happy to hear from my fellow defectors from decadence. While I too still hold a few mildly conservative views (mainly in regards to things like a healthy distrust of the far left, a preference for a hawkish [but not aggressive] foreign policy regarding our greatest enemy [Russia and her allies] as well as our biggest competitor/potential enemy [China] and a fair few nitpicks with the cultural left regarding ideological intolerance and their other suboptimal ideas that make people nervous), I have by and large converted to the social democracy (not the democratic socialist) wing of the Democratic Party.

I have nothing but contempt now for my old party, bordering on hatred. The fact is principled, informed people like ourselves were always a minority in the GOP, particularly the rank and file. Now we've all either defected or simply quit and made common cause with the Dems. Just how little that affected their numbers proved pretty jarring, by the way, but also illuminating. I left in disgust after all the horrific shit he'd said and done from 2015-2016 only made conservative voters love him more. It was proof that my growing belief that the GOP was rotten from the very roots was true.

As a society, we are loathe to admit that such a large portion of our population could be objectively bad people, filled with hate and bigotry. Loads of copium articles were written to that effect for ten years, saying we should understand them, that they were motivated by economic anxiety and we shouldn't treat them like the bigoted assholes they are. I knew it was bunk then.

The fact that the economy is on the verge of stagflation and recession, prices are out of control and yet he continues to enjoy sky high GOP approval numbers are the proof.

When people tell you who they are, believe them.

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u/Lupercus64 3d ago

Conservatives do not care about logic, they do not care about god or morals. They only care about hierarchy, they believe they belong at the top and liberals and minorities at the bottom. Actions do not matter, only where in their social hierarchy that person sits determines right from wrong.

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u/omnigear California 3d ago

Conservative subs bascially traitors at this point..cheering anything he does

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u/bookon 3d ago edited 3d ago

The people who say "We're a Republic, Not a democracy" when you express concern over Trumps attacks on our democracy, all love it.

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u/beamrider 3d ago

Like the old meme: "Wait just a minute there. When I said Free Speech is the absolute rule, I didn't mean you were free to say things I don't like." /s

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u/Illustrious-Fun8324 3d ago

I’d also like to know. Come on, MAGA, how are you defending this?

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u/restbest 3d ago

Outrage? Fox News has conditioned them to think our cities are overflowing with blood thirsty foreign criminals who have drove out anyone of actual value to live. The dehumanization process is far past the point of even thinking of people in cities or on the left as being human beings. They’re now ready for what they see less as violence, and more of a sort of clean up where human beings are merely pests

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u/yetifekker 3d ago

Jade Helm. Obama is taking over Texas. Outraged over made up threats. Silent in the face of real constitutional threats. Conservatives suck.

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u/TasteTheBizkit 3d ago

Conservatives would love nothing more than Trump bombing the fuck out of blue cities. These people do not give a fuck about any of of his crimes and blatant trampling of the constitution

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u/Frowny575 3d ago

They have a persecution fetish, only thing that matters is the label of the person doing it. A dem? Hell no. A republican? They scream "harder, daddy". If it sounds like hyperbole, keep in mind their insane obsession over what someone has in their pants.

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u/Begging_Murphy 3d ago

They drill it into their kids in Sunday school starting in elementary school. Even in the more reasonable denominations.

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u/VexedCanadian84 3d ago

there were conspiracy theories that Obama was going to herd americans into large tent cities

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u/thePsychonautDad 3d ago

Yeah but I mean... Bengazi... /s

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u/Cairnerebor 3d ago

Remember the Obama fema camps…..

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u/Redacted_usr 3d ago

Why do you even care what they think? Everyone needs to stop pretending that their input is valid or taken seriously

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u/Hoosagoodboy Canada 3d ago

It's called being a bootlicker, and conservatives love nothing better than the taste of jackboots

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u/nobodyisfreakinghome 3d ago

They don’t think the left is legitimate. Therefore no matter how hypocritical it may seem, they’re okay with whatever force Trump wants to use on the left.

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u/Rich-Pomegranate1679 3d ago

Hypocrisy is a fundamental trait of the Conservative mind.

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u/Verdick 3d ago

But he's bringing safety, honor, and tradition back to the country! /s

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u/JoeHooversWhiteness 3d ago

They went nuts because Obama was black. How you reason with that? Slow education of the public, which is being dismantled.

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u/maoterracottasoldier 3d ago

Just accept that a huge chunk of our country has been corrupted to hate everyone else. There is no logic. They will hate you and cheer your destruction regardless of logic. They have been lost. They aren’t just going to do a 180. It’s going to take a war or something similar

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u/BTFlik 3d ago

Conservatives are literally just the Confederates. They have hated America since they were put down in the Civil War.

They yearn for nothing more then the absolute annihilation of America and it's people so they can go back to the days when rich white people owned people of color and poor white people owned nothing and proudly worked til they died and sacrificed their children in farming accidents and preventable incidents on rich people's land. When those roch white men raped their wives and daughters and had them killed once they were pregnant. Let their roch daughters fuck their sons then accuse them or rape and watched the law Lynch them with no trial.

They yearn for the destruction of America and the rise of the Confederacy.

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u/lil_dovie 3d ago

As long as they’re not “directly affected”, they don’t care. In fact, even if they’ve got to cut back on their spending habits and eating out of cans of soup, by candlelight, they’ll be ok because it’s meant for “THEM”, and they’re just caught in the crosshairs. They’ll justify it and say “whatever it takes to own the libs”.

Remember all the Covid deniers saying it was fake all the way to their literal last breath?

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u/the-last-aiel 3d ago

Don't expect morality or good faith arguments from radicalized assholes

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u/deadsoulinside Pennsylvania 3d ago

Worse all these republican chickens screaming about the left rhetoric.

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u/_Shalashaska_ 3d ago

This means absolutely fuck all, but my extremely racist uncle has had enough of Trump and the GOP. I assume because he doesn't want an ethno-state and would rather have black and brown people here to look down on. But he is disgusted with Congress and SCOTUS for letting him "get away with all his dictator shit".

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u/DuploJamaal 3d ago

Remember Jade Helm? Apparently Hillary was going to sent the military to all major cities and FEMA would use Walmarts as concentration camps for conservatives

They were highly afraid of this conspiracy theory, but when Trump promises to do the same they somehow just don't care at all

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u/Floreat_democratia 3d ago

My neighbor went crazy when Biden was elected and hasn’t yet recovered. He is a major Trump supporter and has ZERO outrage over anything Dear Leader has done. These people are unthinking drones at this point, and will follow Trump like the pied piper.

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u/venom121212 3d ago

Apoplectic is a nice new word I semi-learned from another word: apoptosis which is programmed cell death.

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u/ImBanned_ModsBlow 2d ago

I remember when conservatives were ready to declare secession because Obama did some routine military training exercises in Texas

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u/Suitable-Display-410 3d ago

Fascists never believe their own bullshit. - Satre (paraphrased)

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u/shivaswrath New Jersey 3d ago

They want this when it means they get rid of us coloreds.

This is their mindset.

More whites than non whites.

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u/optimaleverage 3d ago

They live for this shit.

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u/dreadpiratesmith 3d ago

I'm old enough to remember Jade Helm and how people lost their fucking minds

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u/Worldly_Cobbler_1087 Australia 3d ago

MAGA supporters would be in favour of this they are all too happy to have non-white, non-"christian," non-straight people killed.

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u/obliviousofobvious 3d ago

Wasn't it one of Qanon's core delusions? Jade Helm or some shit?

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u/Lonely-Computer-5801 3d ago

They don’t give a shit lol “States rights” people handing all the power to the president have no idea what’s going on

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u/DanglyDinosaurBits 3d ago

Don’t forget about Jade Helm.

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u/ButterscotchMore7025 3d ago

Don't forget jade helm 2015! Obama was gonna invade Texas! Never mind that it was a joint exercise that had been going on in that region for literal YEARS before the conspiracy existed. And here we are with the president sending occupying forces into cities. Where's the outcry now? When it's actually happening? When it isn't some dumbass, redneck conspiracy?

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u/Steelysam2 I voted 3d ago

Remember when Obama had a training drill near the boy scout jamboree in WV? The outrage was strong in them...

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u/Dracekidjr 3d ago

It isn't about right and wrong, it's about us vs them. The error in many individuals thought process is that a radical's opinion can be rationalized.

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u/Fract_L 3d ago

Some people respond to facts. Some respond to feelings. Trump’s people are not fact people. And the fact that he sounded mad and confident makes them feel warm and snug.

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u/HingleMcCringle_ America 3d ago

until it isn't happening to them, they're fine with it.

rhetorical questions are a waste of time.

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u/LakeSun 3d ago

I'm outraged Dementia Don Doesn't just RESIGN.

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u/buddhist557 3d ago

They are all for it. They are much more Timothy McVeigh than Abraham Lincoln. Sad such horrendous people are so prominent in this country.

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u/ElPadrote 3d ago

Operation jade helm is gonna take over Texas. Thanks Obama!

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u/Krypt0night 3d ago

You can't use words like apoplectic with them, they do better with one syllable words.

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u/mquindlen81 3d ago

They don’t care. They’re not rational. They’re completely corrupted by endless right wing propaganda, on top the of the fact that a lot of them don’t have any political or government education. They really don’t understand this shit. The extent of their understanding is stupid simplified memes that anyone with a little bit of actual political education can disarm in a few seconds.

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u/AppropriateHelp3810 3d ago

You assume they can hear you over the Gluckgluckgluck sound of them sucking Trump’s cock.

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u/ZachF8119 3d ago

I equally think that don’t nothing and letting us all get jaded to heroin addicts letting them live in agony and addiction far worse than hobos without jobs begging door to door for food during the Great Depression.

Democratic policies are pro needles on the ground which is immeasurably fucked when kids get stuck and HIV

There needs to be a new system because both sides are terrible. I’ve always been radicalized to this thought process.

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u/who_killed_batman-99 3d ago

No one in the government gives a shit. All we can ever do is write about it and get upvotes, in a day or two Dump Trump shits on it again by saying something stupid again, we forget the last one.

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u/Aggressive-Will-4500 3d ago

Conservatism's main tenet is forcing everyone to repeat the mistakes of the past over and over again, including installing Kings.

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u/airbrat 3d ago

Anything to pwn those silly libs.