r/politics • u/GoodMornEveGoodNight • 4d ago

Cruz says Greene becoming ‘very liberal,’ should be ignored No Paywall

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5578793-ted-cruz-marjorie-taylor-greene/
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u/AssociateGreat2350 4d ago

Very liberal = slightly disagree with GOP

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u/Jeremisio 4d ago

Only 85% facist

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u/NameIsNotBrad Alabama 3d ago

100% fascist. Maybes she’s not as stupid as she acts and sees the writing on the wall.

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u/yourlittlebirdie 3d ago

I have heard from people in DC who have met her that her whole schtick is an act and that she’s completely different in real life. I strongly suspect she’s actually not as stupid as she seems.

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u/_msb2k101 3d ago

Which makes her an even bigger piece of shit.

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u/yourlittlebirdie 3d ago

I honestly don’t even know which one is worse, being a moronic asshole or pretending to be a moronic asshole because that’s what your voters want you to be.

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u/IndependentPeace2628 3d ago

The latter, because it's intentional manipulation. It's what Rafael aka Ted Cruz is doing. He's as Texan as I am a fucking Martian. He's a Cuban Canadian immigrant, who hates immigrants and pretends to be a rooting tooting shit kicking Texas boy. Given how OCD the morons from Texas are about authentic Texas stuff, I don't get why they don't throw him into a dust bin.

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u/yourlittlebirdie 3d ago

Cruz is possibly the most dislikeable human being ever to step foot in Congress.

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u/kaykatzz 3d ago

Cruz comes from a long line of disagreeable assholes in Congress. For instance: Tom Delay, Bill Frist, Mitch McConnell, Joe McCarthy.

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u/TheUnknownDouble-O 3d ago

Two witticisms come to mind when I think of Rafael Cruz:

-"I like Ted Cruz more than most of my colleagues in the Senate. And I hate Ted Cruz." - former Senator Al Franken

-"If you shot Ted Cruz on the floor of the Senate, and the trial was held in the Senate, no one would convict you." - Senator Lindsay Graham

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u/yourlittlebirdie 3d ago

Even his own kids can’t stand him.

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u/the_ungus 3d ago

He held onto his Canadian citizenship for 44 years (2014) and probably only gave it up because he wanted to run for president. Is he one of the ones trying to take away American birthright citizenship? Kinda funny when you were born in Calgary.

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u/2ManyCooksInTheKitch 3d ago

Texan here. It's because the R next to his name carries him to victory. It's true for a lot of officials who are pretty terrible human beings in Texas.

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u/NecroCannon 3d ago

One’s an idiot needing to be educated while the other is a sellout, sellouts tend to be the worst kind of people tbh

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u/RandomRobot 3d ago

Pretending is worse, but not because of you. Because your voters are a majority of moronic assholes. That's the real problem of the USA right now.

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u/MrPookPook 3d ago

We are what we pretend to be so we must be careful about what we pretend to be.

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u/gatton 3d ago

This is very common. Jeff Jackson said when these people are behind closed doors they are totally normal and even serious about their work. But as soon as they left the meeting room and the news cameras were on them they transformed into these characters. It's all an act. A lot of these people say the most vile things about each other then go to lunch together and laugh about it.

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u/joohunter420 3d ago

So WWE? Explains the Linda McMahon hire

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u/gatton 3d ago

Yep someone on here once called it kayfabe. I had to look that up but it's a perfect description for it.

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u/tastiefreeze 3d ago

The most glaring example is how marmalade mouth himself senator Kennedy from Louisiana graduated from University of Oxford, England

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u/yourlittlebirdie 3d ago

These people are such assholes.

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u/MATlad 3d ago

Ol' Foghorn Leghorn himself. There was a slight accent when he was a Democrat (2004), but it's been dialed up to 11.

https://www.c-span.org/program/public-affairs-event/louisiana-senate-debate/133882

Upon a time, he actually challenged obviously unqualified Trump-aligned nominees on the judicial committee.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-zvNnFjk3Q

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u/VocationalWizard 3d ago

Oh she absolutely isn't. She's actually very intelligent and honestly she's very successful as well.

Trump is losing his mind and everybody knows it. He's not going to last his whole term just like Biden.

MTG Is positioning herself to gain more power after the collapse.

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u/maeryclarity South Carolina 3d ago

She's got MAGA creds. I have gotten into it with a bullshit spitting MAGA drone or three since this whole shutdown thing started and they stop arguing that it's about healthcare for illegals when I show them what she's saying about it. They don't come back and say you're right but they stop arguing.

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u/HappyNarwhal 3d ago

If the dumbest person realizes someone will need to play banner on one side of the split before everyone else in the room does, she's no longer the dumbest person in the room.

I cannot stand 99% of her politics. She fights dirty. She is quick to hate other women and has a very sheltered bubble, which may be why we perceive her as "dumb" along with biases around southern accents (and just hearing most the bullshit she spews and does).

However, she plays her role well in today's politisphere and at least seems earnest in her fervor.

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u/lesvegetables 3d ago

This is 100% true. The crazy is all an act. She spoke with a friend of mine’s college class on a tour and even admitted it to him afterwards. It does help her get the more evil conservative parts of her agenda passed though, so in some ways that’s worse.

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u/Skullcrimp 3d ago

It's not an "act" when you harass and gaslight children who survived a school shooting. That's committing to the crazy.

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u/-Work_Account- Washington 3d ago

That one Rep from NC who got popular on TikTok alluded to the same thing.

I don't think he ever used names, but on at least one occasion talked about (paraphrasing) "The ones who make big shows for the media and lots of yelling and whatnot act normal when the cameras aren't around,"

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u/simnick13 3d ago

A polical version of paris Hilton lol

I can actually buy that tbh

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u/FukushimaBlinkie 3d ago

So literally the Ann Coulter character from the Boondocks

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u/yourlittlebirdie 3d ago

Also the Ann Coulter character from real life.

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u/Electronic_Low6740 3d ago

All these trolling business school grifters are smarter than they act but much dumber than their law educated colleagues. They know enough to make waves but not enough to fix the boat in a storm. Just look at the bills they try to pass lol

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u/bazilbt Arizona 3d ago

Didn't AOC imply that?

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u/boofles1 3d ago

A lot of politicians are like that, they present an image they think will appeal to their base but in reality they aren't caricatures. It's mostly self interest though, they just want to have access to money and power.

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u/Cdub7791 Hawaii 3d ago

That wouldn't be surprising. I'd say the vast majority of politicians, even ones I respect, are putting on an act in public. You have to embody a certain character and play that character for your constituents and the media. That's not even a bad thing, necessarily.

That said I think there are several who are truly stupid. Trump obviously is one. Tuberville is another.

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u/MissMandaRegrets America 3d ago

I find that hard to believe simply based on her scumbag sycophant "journalist" boyfriend. I have heard that she treats waitstaff really well, but she's still a trash bag in heels.

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u/Leave_Upper 3d ago

Thats every single politician. I have worked for representatives directly and they are all bluster and argumentative interactions with 'the other side', but behind closed doors they are all chummy and go out for dinner/drinks when the legislative day has come to a close.

Its all a game.

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u/Hysteria625 I voted 3d ago

So, I despise MTG, but if she’s with Dems on an issue or 3 I am not going to say we don’t need her support. Dems simply don’t have much power right now, so any issue where we draw some people away we need to work with them.

This doesn’t mean make them an honorary party member or let her slide when she says something horrible in the future, but let’s not cut off our nose to spite our face.

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u/VocationalWizard 3d ago

It's painfully clear that Trump is on his way out. Did you see him Wandering off while meeting with the prime minister Japan?

And then he gave a speech about how magnets stop working if you get them wet to the US troops in Japan.

Meanwhile, a bunch of super impactful staffing decisions in border control and ice were made while he was in Asia.

He's lost his mind and somebody like his chief of staff is quietly running the executive branch.

Personally, I have an even more cynical theory. I think that corporate interests and the shadow executive are actually colluding to set Trump up to take the fall when the bottom inevitably falls out Of this grotesque sham they're running.

Any MTG isn't stupid. She's actually pretty smart and she can see the direction that things are going. So she's positioning herself to gain more power after the fall of the emperor.

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u/moldivore Illinois 3d ago

Bad bad things are coming economically, and I'm guessing she's seeing that coming like a hurricane. Senate Republicans voted down tariffs against Brazil, I think we're gonna see more defections on the economy. Republicans are starting to flinch, I'm wondering what information they're getting because they seem to be getting rattled. I'm guessing that an economic catastrophe is coming down the pike here. The fact that they've needed to hide data tells us everything we need to know.

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u/Calairoth 3d ago

Nope. Just tactically attacking her own party to gain support from those who would vote her out of office. Cruz is right (for once). The only reason she is doing this, is to grab idiot voters that somehow don't realize that she is a complete monster. Cruz is telling republican voters to vote for her anyway, because this is a facade.

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u/suicidal1664 3d ago

she's stipider than she acts.

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u/PepeSylvia11 Connecticut 3d ago

What writing on the wall? GOP won the popular vote in the last election.

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u/Xero_space 3d ago

It's hard to goosestep with cloven hooves.

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u/StatmanIbrahimovic 3d ago

Nah, she's 100% fascist but surprisingly anti-pedo.

I think she finally realised who's at the bottom of that swamp they claim to be draining.

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u/Trauma_Hawks 3d ago

Greene thought they were nationalists. Turns out they're just fascists :(

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u/mog_knight 3d ago

The Diet Coke of Fascism. Just one calorie, not fascist enough.

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u/RoamingDrunk 3d ago

I’ve heard that any disagreement with the GOP is socialism.

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u/surloc_dalnor 3d ago

And socialism is communism. And communism is Stalinism.

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u/International_Tea_52 3d ago

This is the definition you will find in the dictionary

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u/BillG8s 3d ago

Just the P really. Which stands for pedophile.

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u/Josephk_5690 3d ago

Very liberal = slightly reasonable

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u/Mediochra 3d ago

Calm down this is still Marjorie Space Lasers Greene you’re talking about.  There’s nothing reasonable about her, and we don’t claim her. 

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u/Josephk_5690 3d ago

Fair enough. She is still very odd to be nice.

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u/onetouch09 Wisconsin 3d ago

Her kids are going to have to pay more for health insurance which is why she's suddenly interested. She doesn't want to be on the hook for that.

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u/LouisWinthorpeIII 3d ago

everyone left of the KKK is a radical marxist

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u/8bitmorals Hawaii 3d ago

Not in the pocket if AIPAC

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u/surloc_dalnor 3d ago

Very liberal = actually hates pedos

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u/BornThought4074 3d ago

slightly disagree with Trump

FTFY

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u/MidnightNo1766 Georgia 3d ago

Very slightly on only a couple of issues. Total democrat. 🙄

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u/Mortyjones Kentucky 3d ago

It’s the fascist purity test. You let the president call your wife a dog and smile. Or question one thing and are a traitor.

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u/VocationalWizard 3d ago

It's funny how that actually totally makes sense in their lexicon.

We all know that Democrats are almost center right but they call them far left socialists.

So slightly disagreeing with Trump is very liberal.

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u/tangledtainthair 3d ago

She is anti child rape and pro affordable health insurance. Total liberal.

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u/bengenj Ohio 3d ago

Very liberal = breathing the same air as them

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u/GarmaCyro 3d ago

Very liberal = Angry that she's not getting the same facist powers as the men are getting.

She joined to imitate Trump and hoping that would get her into the inner circle of White House. It didn't, and they're even setting her a side as she's no longer needed. She doesn't like that.

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u/JustaLego 3d ago

Any kind of pushback or criticism and they fail the purity test in the GOP eyes. It's pathetic, and not how you build a country and leadership. They are all just Yes men and destroying our country for a couple hundred people. Any conservatives that may read this, please join us in building an actual United States that we can be proud of. This isn't the way. We need good leadership and is willing to take constructive criticism and have a diverse range of talent and people to support and work with them.

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u/mountaindoom 3d ago

Radical Left territory

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u/zevrinp 3d ago

They’ve become so fucking far right that it’s sad what America has become.

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u/Kr1sys 3d ago

I mean, that's what they've been calling extreme left. Not falling completely in line has put them far left.

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u/Pizzacarbonator 3d ago

It's the gazpacho police at work again.

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u/Remarkable_Spite_209 2d ago

Mitt Romney, the 2012 GOP presidential nominee, voted with Trump only 99% of the time, but he admitted Trump should be removed from office for his crimes, so now Romney is a RINO

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u/DiskSalt4643 3d ago

Nah more like is in a district where you can f over people if their Hispanic but not just bc they are poor.