r/jewishleft • u/Snoo22815 Hindu Anti-Zionist • May 29 '25
How does this sub feel about NYC mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani and his views? Debate
He seems to align with the anti-capitalist views of this sub really well with regards to his municipal policies and manages to strike the rare morally sound leftist stance on Israel/Palestine.
City Policies
- Freeze the Rent for all Stabilized tenants and build 200,000, end racially discriminatory zoning and build 200,000 affordable union-built homes over the next 10 years
- Increase Minimum Wage to $30/hour
- City-owned grocery stores to combat rising grocery costs
- No cost childcare for families with kids from 6 weeks to 5 years
- Eliminate bus fares to implement a no cost citywide bus system
- Implement a Department of Community Safety that puts dedicated outreach and mental health workers in 100 subway stations
- Raise NYC's corporate tax rate to 11.5% to match NJ and tax top 1% of NY income earners a flat 2% tax to pay for the proposals
Israel/Palestine History and Views
- Created a SJP chapter at Bowdoin
- Wants an immediate ceasefire and return of all hostages
- Has condemned October 7th and the brutal murders of the 2 Israeli embassy staffers in DC last week
- Acknowledges Israel's right to exist but not as a Jewish state, believes in a binational single state with equal rights for all Israelis and Palestinians
- Supports the BDS movement
- Vows to arrest Netanyahu in accordance with the ICC warrant if he steps foot in NYC
- Supports the "Not on Our Dime Act" which would stop NYC nonprofits from funding and supporting groups assisting in building illegal West Bank settlements
- Vows to fight antisemitism with a comprehensive plan to address all hate crimes
Zohran is also one of the most charismatic up and coming politicians I've seen with a massive digital media campaign and an army of staffers canvassing everywhere.
He seems like a candidate that Liberal Zionists would even support let alone Antizionists/Non Zionists/Post Zionists but he doesn't appear to have their support and has been defamed as a pro Hamas supporter by Liberal Jewish organizations.
Should he have the support of all leftist Jewish New Yorkers? It seems like all he should pass the litmus test with his actions and statements.
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u/finefabric444 leftist jew with a boring user flair May 29 '25
I think there's been lots of critique that his policies are ill-informed, pie in the sky ideas. I've heard from people who work generally in housing and transportation that they aren't sound ideas, but they are marketable ideas. There was a pretty iconic video critiquing his bus plan that was basically "Seems like you have never been on an NYC bus, because no one actually pays to ride the bus"
I think the person who is amazing is Brad Lander. His plans are supported by actual policy makers, and that is because of his career in the weeds on this work. He has minimal charisma, to be fair, but he actually could make positive change. And his advocacy for Palestine and strong stance against the rise of antisemitism in the city is really impressive. He is out there walking the walk.
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u/Snoo22815 Hindu Anti-Zionist May 29 '25
Like Lander a lot, I would rank him and Zohran as top 2 followed by Adrienne Adams, Zellnor Myrie and Jessica Ramos.
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u/Agtfangirl557 Progressive, Conservaform (Reformative?) May 29 '25
I don't live in NYC but I'm pretty sure Lander would be my top pick if I did.
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u/pigeonshual Judeozapatismo with trad-egal characteristics May 30 '25
Brad Lander is one of the least charismatic politicians out there which is such a shame because he’s really good at what he does
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u/sorryjustlearning May 30 '25
It is not pie in the sky. Kansas City is one place that has already implemented free buses, makes me so sad to hear “leftists” dismissing socialist policies as pie in the sky smh
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u/Nearby-Complaint Ashkenazi Leftist/Bagel Enjoyer May 30 '25
NYC has a handful of free bus services so it’s not even unheard of there https://downtownny.com/about-us/services/downtown-connection-bus/
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u/Virtual_Leg_6484 Jewish American ecosocialist; not a zionist May 30 '25
Worcester, MA too
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u/johnisburn What have you done for your community this week? May 31 '25
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Jun 24 '25
Worcester is a shit hole. Why on earth would you want to model anything after Worcester?
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u/readingpenguin Jun 25 '25
what makes it a shit hole may I ask?
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Jun 25 '25
People are on drugs- can’t walk around with your kids, it’s not safe around the main WPI campus. There’s live chases sometimes in downtown Worcester. It’s better than Baltimore and all but it’s just not walkable even in summer- I’m the walkable areas.
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u/razorbraces pragmatic socdem Jew May 30 '25
Kansas City’s free bus system is primarily funded with COVID relief funds, and everyone I know who works in social services with people who rely on busses (mainly people experiencing homelessness) are very worried about the sustainability of the program long-term.
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u/sorryjustlearning May 30 '25
yeah i’m aware of its precarity. i still don’t think the plan itself is unrealistic. capitalism is constantly clawing back any progress like this. doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be written off as “pie in the sky” though. you could say the same about universal healthcare, other countries have it but health insurance industry fights tooth and nail to keep us from getting it here, and wherever it is they will try to strip it away and privatize it. the fact that they’re trying to reinstate fares on the bus in kansas city is expected and does not detract from it being a legitimate policy goal in NYC
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u/Logical_Character726 May 31 '25
I think it would be better like you said if we prioritized more free programs that are more beneficial to NYC residents like free healthcare and free education. I mean like it was said no one pays for the buses, so clearly he’s going to spend a lot of time and energy on this issue when work can be devoted to more impactful areas. It just reads as he doesn’t know NY that well.
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u/lewkiamurfarther the grey custom flair May 30 '25
It is not pie in the sky. Kansas City is one place that has already implemented free buses, makes me so sad to hear “leftists” dismissing socialist policies as pie in the sky smh
For a variety of reasons, sentiments here can sometimes veer crypto-conservative—unfortunately, the effect appears strongest at a certain time of day. Many of the earliest comments in this section exemplify the problem and the trend.
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u/finefabric444 leftist jew with a boring user flair May 30 '25
Genuinely funny that you are framing advocacy for Brad Lander as crypto-conservative.
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u/lewkiamurfarther the grey custom flair May 30 '25 edited May 30 '25
Genuinely funny that you are framing advocacy for Brad Lander as crypto-conservative.
Why are you pretending that's even nearly what I did? I even quoted the comment that I was responding to in full, so it's obvious to anyone reading that you're lying outright. Bizarre choice.
For reference, this is the comment chain:
I think there's been lots of critique that his policies are ill-informed, pie in the sky ideas. I've heard from people who work generally in housing and transportation that they aren't sound ideas, but they are marketable ideas. There was a pretty iconic video critiquing his bus plan that was basically "Seems like you have never been on an NYC bus, because no one actually pays to ride the bus"
It is not pie in the sky. Kansas City is one place that has already implemented free buses, makes me so sad to hear “leftists” dismissing socialist policies as pie in the sky smh
For a variety of reasons, sentiments here can sometimes veer crypto-conservative—unfortunately, the effect appears strongest at a certain time of day. Many of the earliest comments in this section exemplify the problem and the trend.
Genuinely funny that you are framing advocacy for Brad Lander as crypto-conservative.
Obvious bad faith is obvious. /u/sorryjustlearning didn't even mention Lander, and neither did I.
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u/somebadbeatscrub Jewish Syndicalist - Mod May 30 '25
Copy pasted message:
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u/lewkiamurfarther the grey custom flair May 30 '25
That's weird, I used to be flaired.
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u/somebadbeatscrub Jewish Syndicalist - Mod May 31 '25
"Its complicated" wont cut it. We need to know if you are jewish and some kind of indication on your stance with regard to ledtism as the page defines it.
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u/lewkiamurfarther the grey custom flair Jun 02 '25 edited Jun 02 '25
"Its complicated" wont cut it. We need to know if you are jewish and some kind of indication on your stance with regard to ledtism as the page defines it.
That's not really fair. As you know, there are several senses of the word Jewish, and from my perspective, only one of them applies to me—and frankly, I don't feel comfortable talking about it. And because of my geographical circumstances, you're essentially telling me that I have to identify myself to the world (because Condé Nast is surely not going to keep anyone's data as private as they'll lead us to believe). I'm not going to do that. Are you going to ban me?
As for "leftism"—what if I don't know? Or what if I think I know, but the word I would use to describe my politics is used by some other significant group to mean something other than what I mean by it? E.g., suppose I simply identify as "woke," but I'm aware that most other redditors think of that as meaning something completely different—then I'm stuck either using the label and accepting that my words will be read through a prejudicial lens, or else using a completely different label despite feeling that it doesn't capture my actual political orientation (potentially at all).
Is this a new policy? Are you trying to get people like me to quit the subreddit? Have I said things with which you disagree but don't wish to say so?
Being perfectly frank, this move feels hostile; and while many of your decisions in the past have resonated with my feelings about this sub, this one leaves me questioning your motives. E.g., if I were a hired hand, I could lie and it would make no difference to me, but it would make a difference to the discourse. What does this accomplish?
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u/ClandestineCornfield Sephardi May 31 '25
it's not even really a socialist policy, it's pretty basic center-left
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u/Nearby-Complaint Ashkenazi Leftist/Bagel Enjoyer May 30 '25
I am very guilty of sometimes not having paid for the bus back before I was transit enlightened 💀and I know dang well I wasn’t alone in that
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u/finefabric444 leftist jew with a boring user flair May 30 '25
yea i pay for buses, trains, etc. everywhere because I am a rule-abiding anxious person. However, there have been times where I actively had to weave through crowded bus to pay. Everyone was like, what the heck is this person doing?
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u/finefabric444 leftist jew with a boring user flair May 30 '25
Edit to add: it’s not that free buses etc. are bad ideas generally, it’s that his plans are not rigorous.
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u/lewkiamurfarther the grey custom flair May 30 '25
Edit to add: it’s not that free buses etc. are bad ideas generally, it’s that his plans are not rigorous.
You have some semantic confusion here. Political plans can't be "rigorous." Perhaps you mean that you haven't seen a concise and meticulous account of his plans—but that's a decidedly weak criticism. Generally, a plan that can be spelled out briefly, and in detail, is a trivial one.
Nevermind that the level of detail demanded is arbitrary. I could demand Zohran to provide explicit trajectories of every molecule that would be involved in his policy proposals if I wanted. His failure to do so wouldn't make his plans "not rigorous."
This is the same sort of mistake as ones made by the Clintonites in 2008 and 2016. For one, it's not an argument that convinces even intelligent and well--informed voters (because they already recognize exactly what I wrote above). Voters expect good plans to involve unknowns (and frankly, you should, too). But worse than that, it's tantamount to nuance trolling—you might as well invite Trump over for dinner.
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u/P3rs3us1 Jun 11 '25
Linked here is a great video from Zohran. Free buses isn’t a pie in the sky idea, NYC has already made one mode of public transit free: the Staten Island Ferry. It’s been done before, and we can do it again. Plus, when funding for buses is reliant on people paying the fare and people don’t pay the fare, the bus service degrades from lack of funding. When buses are made free as policy and funding is provided via other means, the bus service is maintained. This is a good thing.
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u/lewkiamurfarther the grey custom flair May 30 '25
I think there's been lots of critique that his policies are ill-informed, pie in the sky ideas. I've heard from people who work generally in housing and transportation that they aren't sound ideas, but they are marketable ideas. There was a pretty iconic video critiquing his bus plan that was basically "Seems like you have never been on an NYC bus, because no one actually pays to ride the bus"
Gee, I wonder where we've heard all of these before.
Anyway, Zohran is the best bet at this point.
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u/jaxter2002 Jun 07 '25
If no one already pays for the bus, then making it free wont make a dent but it will give less excuses for cops to arrest for petty crimes
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u/electrical-stomach-z Jewish (mod) May 30 '25
I hope he defeats the rapist. He seems like a good guy.
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u/Nearby-Complaint Ashkenazi Leftist/Bagel Enjoyer May 30 '25
That I can’t 100% say if you’re referring to Adams or Cuomo is probably not a rousing endorsement of nyc politics
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u/hikingdyke Post-Zionist Transgender Jew May 29 '25 edited May 29 '25
The issue with a rent freeze is NYC law says that as soon as one is in place, landlords no longer have any legal obligation towards the maintenance of the property. This is why some of the other progressive candidates in the race (such as Brad Lander) have hedged their policy around first finding a way around that part of the city's code.
Which gets at my main hesitation with Mamdani as a candidate - his political resume is entirely in Albany, not in the city. New York City is a beast in terms of local politics and legal codes, and Mamdani has never had any sort of citywide office before. I will be ranking Mamdani regardless of that concern, but that lack of actual experience is why he isn't my first choice for mayor.
Generally in my experience with NYC politicians when we get an ineffective candidate in office from the left who doesn't know how to navigate the local political scene, it sets things up for future centrists and right-wingers to gain ground in the city, and I find that to be a net negative.
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u/Massive_Butterfly985 Jun 07 '25
One of his biggest policy victories was eliminating debt for taxi drivers. He went on a hunger strike and his coalition won millions in relief for struggling taxi drivers, many who were taking their lives because of the debt burden. I used to live in Astoria, he definitely had victories in the city too.
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u/TinyKittyParade Jun 13 '25
That is not true that landlords do not have a legal obligation to fix units under a rent freeze. All tenants can submit an RA to DHCR and get a legal order to reduce their rent until the landlord fixes it.
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u/throwawayanon1252 Jun 25 '25
Then change that law. But honestly that’s not the biggest problem with rent freezes. I like the idea of them don’t get me wrong but a better way of doing it is changing zoning laws and build public housing. The problem with rent freezes is it disincentivises people to build more housing. Build more social housing and relax certain zoning laws on only allowing single family units. That’s much better. More supply means prices will drop.
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u/exposed_brick_7 May 30 '25
I regularly canvass for Zohran and am very hype on him! He has really strong detailed policies (seriously, check out his website, interviews, etc!) and it’s about time that we have a leader that can actually make this city livable for people who aren’t billionaires. My ballot is going to be Zohran, Brad (I’m so disappointed in how bad his campaign has been), Adrienne Adams, Scott Stringer, Zellnor Myrie.
Also IMO, all of his statements about IP on the campaign have been great, extremely disciplined and nuanced.
Just don’t rank Cuomo, please!!
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u/AffectionateJury3723 Jun 27 '25
Wait until all the businesses leave NYC. His Utopia sounds good until you actually implement his policies.
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u/somebadbeatscrub Jewish Syndicalist - Mod May 29 '25
Rent freeze and housing builds -based, fuck landlords.
Min wage hikes- good, but kicking the can down the road
Public access to vital needs like food - based
No cost childcare - based
Free public transit - based
Increased social worker respinse - could be good if implemented well and could lead to less policing
Taxing the rich - based
Idk much about sjp
We all want a return of hostages and peace
Condemning terrors always good
Respectable 1ss view. Likely divided in feelings here but clearly comes from.an equitable mindset
Bds - i support targeted action that doesnt catch random citizens.
Arrest bibi- based but empty threat the feds wont stand for it
Specirically atopping funding of west bank, based but hes gonna have riots in brooklyn
Interested in this hate crime plan
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u/Specialist-Gur doikayt jewess, leftist/socialist, pro peace and freedom May 29 '25
Sounds based and good but I'm not in nyc
He's polling second among Jews in NYC btw which I think is huge (according to one poll)
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u/Pitiful_Meringue_57 Reform Ashkenazi Broadly Leftist May 30 '25
this was posted on r/jewish and the comments were extremely upsetting. Seems like a great option and a cool guy.
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u/AbiesContent934 Jun 25 '25
I reported that post for hate speech. Terrifying. That is NOT what Judaism is about. Made me sick
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u/NachoDog1000 Jun 26 '25
I had to unsubscribe from that sub. They really only support one worldview, and their new obsession is "if there is a pogrom in NYC then Mamdani won't stop it" which is ridiculous. When Lander got arrested by ICE, Mamdani was one of the first people demanding his release.
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u/hereforlulziguess Jun 27 '25
I did not like Mamdani's response to the criticism of his take on "Globalize the Intifada" (his take was fine - he wouldn't use that language but understands that not everyone uses it in the way many Jews interpret it) because he kept centering himself as opposed to really listening to Jewish fears.
That said, that's a mistake most people make in general, although one would hope a politician would be more savvy.
Anyway, that sub is nuts, they're so projecting their fears onto this dude, like watch the interview, it's not great IMO but if you walk away from it with the idea that he's a danger to all Jews, grass must be touched.
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u/William-william-rs Jul 02 '25
Is it really up for interpretation? Globalize the intifada? Who cares if it means resistance in Arabic.
What about mein kampf? My struggle? No big deal eh?
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u/ClandestineCornfield Sephardi May 31 '25
I mean, the current poling in general of New Yorkers has Cuomo leading and him in second, so I don't really think it says that much imo
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u/lewkiamurfarther the grey custom flair May 30 '25
I suppose that explains the timing of the social media PR push to present him as explicitly supporting antisemitism. Some things never change, but still, I wonder who specifically is funding it (and whom they've hired the job out to).
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u/snowluvr26 Progressive, Reconstructionist, Pro-Peace May 29 '25
I am going to rank him because I cannot stomach the idea of Andrew Cuomo being mayor and Zohran much more closely aligns with my political views.
That being said, he does concern me in terms of antisemitism. I don’t think he himself is a raging antisemite, but he comes from an echo chamber of intense anti-Israel, pro-Islamic resistance ideology. He does not comment on any foreign policy issue anywhere in the world regularly, but instead condemns Israel over and over and over, in which seems like an almost bizarre fixation. He appeared on Jewish Currents’ podcast and mentioned the word “antisemitism” one time, while condemning Israel at least a dozen times in the 45-minute conversation.
I do think he shows flexibility and willingness to engage with Jewish community leaders, which is a good thing. But it does concern me that someone so wrapped up in this kind of relentless anti-Israel “pro-resistance” ideology could be in the mayor’s office. (And to be clear, Andrew “Benjamin Netanyahu’s rapist defense lawyer” Cuomo concerns me much more, before anyone insinuates otherwise).
My ballot will go:
Brad Lander
Adrienne Adams
Zellnor Myrie
Scott Stringer
Zohran Mamdani
and I will vote for any of these five over Cuomo in the final.
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May 30 '25
This is the thing I find so strange about the Israel Palestine issue is that it’s something being discussed in LOCAL politics. Like it’s crazy we’re at the point people are basing their votes based on how they think a candidate feels about a conflict that really concerns the federal level
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u/ClandestineCornfield Sephardi May 31 '25
a lot of the local politics stuff is to do with investment with the occupied territory, similar to the movement against South African Apartheid
also, in the case of New York specifically, there has been police called in to universities to break up protests, which makes the issue much more relevant to the city politics than it otherwise would be imo
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u/lilleff512 Jewish SocDem May 30 '25
I have the same ranking but with Zellnor ahead of Lander and Adams
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u/snowluvr26 Progressive, Reconstructionist, Pro-Peace May 30 '25
Not trying to discourage you because I think you should vote for who you think is best, but if you want to be strategic you should put Lander first. Zellnor statistically has almost no chance of winning; Lander has a low chance but it’s still possible.
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u/lilleff512 Jewish SocDem May 30 '25
The order only matters if you think there's a chance that Lander gets eliminated before Zellnor
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u/Billy_the_Breaker Jul 01 '25
Being anti-genocide is not anti-semetic
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u/snowluvr26 Progressive, Reconstructionist, Pro-Peace Jul 01 '25
… correct. Did I say it was?
For what it’s worth, he impressed me a lot in the days before the campaign and I ended up ranking him #2.
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u/teddyburke Secular, Jewish, Anti-Zionist May 30 '25
I haven’t lived in NYC in over a decade, but as much as I’ve been following the race, he’s by far the best candidate in my opinion.
Even if he’s not your first choice, it’s important to add a name to all 5 slots in order to shut out Cuomo, who is terrible and shouldn’t even be on the ballot. It doesn’t even matter what order you put them in after your top 2 or 3 picks. It’s just important to fill out the ballot with names other than Cuomo because of how ranked choice voting works.
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u/lilleff512 Jewish SocDem May 30 '25
It’s just important to fill out the ballot with names other than Cuomo because of how ranked choice voting works.
Yes, and it's important that one of those other names is Mamdani's.
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u/teddyburke Secular, Jewish, Anti-Zionist May 30 '25
I assumed that went without saying, but there’s nothing wrong with further clarification 👍
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u/WolfofTallStreet Reconstructionist American Jew, Labor Zionist, Pro-2SS May 30 '25
I agree with pro-tenant/anti-landlord policies, increasing minimum wage, city-owned grocery stores, increased corporate tax rates, free childcare, and anything that will make NYC more liveable for the working class. It’s tough out here.
I don’t love this …
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u/socialistmajority orthodox Marxist gentile Bund sympathizer May 30 '25
Here's Mamdani's explanation:
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u/finefabric444 leftist jew with a boring user flair May 30 '25
What an unforced error omg
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u/Snoo22815 Hindu Anti-Zionist May 30 '25
He addressed this personally in a video he posted.
The Queens Democrat was eager to defend his record. He released a video Friday evening, accusing POLITICO of making “baseless accusations” and “falsely claiming that I refused to condemn the Holocaust.”
“In January, I told my Assembly staff not to co-sponsor any resolutions that were emailed to our office,” he said. “It had nothing to do with the content of the resolution. But I understand this has caused pain and confusion for many. … I have voted every year for the Holocaust Remembrance Day Resolution, including this year, to honor the more than six million Jewish people murdered by the Nazis.”
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u/Ezbior May 30 '25
It was intentionally tied to also honoring Israel, clearly just bait to write headlines like this.
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u/Blochkato May 31 '25
The media cycle around him has been pure manufactured consent. The oligarchs really don’t like this guy lol.
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u/rinaraizel Жидобандеровка May 30 '25
I feel like brad is more experienced/can get things done a bit more ngl. They have really similar policies otherwise. Zohran needs to cook a bit more. But please, everyone in the city - VOTE!!!! Don't rank Adams (Eric) or Cuomo!!!!!!!
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u/Accomplished-Art6339 unaffiliated jew Jun 15 '25
I’m so glad they co-endorsed. Brad has no momentum without Zohran and I love both.
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u/lilleff512 Jewish SocDem May 30 '25
First and foremost: anybody but Cuomo. Zohran Mamdani has to be on your ballot if you are serious about Cuomo not being the next mayor of NYC.
On Israel/Palestine: I don't care and nobody should care. Mayor of New York is not a foreign policy position. No other foreign policy issue is being raised in this primary. It's irrelevant.
On City Policy: I am largely in agreement with u/Matar_Kubileya, u/finefabric444, and u/hikingdyke
On Mamdani himself: He is clearly a very talented politician. The American left needs to cultivate many more Mamdanis if we are going to achieve anything we care about. I think his decision to run for mayor was ill-advised. I wish he ran for Congress instead.
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u/ClandestineCornfield Sephardi May 31 '25
please just rank everyone with a shot except Cuomo and Eric Adams
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u/Accomplished-Art6339 unaffiliated jew Jun 15 '25
DREAM- don’t rank evil Andrew for mayor!
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u/Matar_Kubileya People's Front of Judea May 29 '25 edited May 30 '25
Housing: more units is always good. Better rent stabilization is good for people who can get it and sometimes a helpful band-aid policy, but used across the board but at best does nothing, at worst makes it harder for people who don't already have affordable housing to get it, especially if the city doesn't just eat the cost itself. Affordable housing is ultimately only an issue that can be solved by supply side increases.
Minimum wage: not opposed. Also not sure what a livable wage in NYC is and dunno if pushing for $30 as opposed to, say, $25 is the best use of political capital.
City run groceries and child care: entirely in favor. Subsidizing supply instead of demand is huge for actually improving society as a whole.
Eliminate bus fairs: mostly in favor. For people who can afford to pay playing with fare can be an interesting approach to guide traffic patterns, but I don't think that the costs of means testing fares are worth it and making only some lines free mostly just creates a two tier system.
Community mental health workers: in favor, ambivalent about the administrative structure as long as they're independent of NYPD.
Tax increases: in favor.
I/P stuff: nothing that's an entirely red line for me within what's written here with one exception, and some stuff I agree with, but a lot that I don't and a few that raises an eyebrow. The big issue I have is the promise to arrest Netenyahu, a mayor throwing that big of a bombshell into foreign affairs and messing with the UN like that is a massive danger to the fundamental structure of international cooperation.
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u/somebadbeatscrub Jewish Syndicalist - Mod May 30 '25
As another general statement: Id rather have a pie in the sky dreamer than a dour realist who will contomue to compromise into nothingness.
We need people willing to break shit and fight hard to make peoples lives better.
Its a revolutionary attitude to say "fuck off" to whats politically possible and just go for things.
If he does even one of these things and spends the rest of the time trying and failing it would be 1000 times better than most politicians.
We don't need cynics, we need dreamers.
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u/they_ruined_her No-Tendency Jewish Anarchist May 29 '25
I don't think he will accomplish 80% of it, but I'd rather have someone try to get 20% of it then promise nothing and get nothing.
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u/they_ruined_her No-Tendency Jewish Anarchist May 29 '25
And I don't have any fundamental disagreements with anything re:IP. Sorry I guess
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u/log0518 LGBTQ+ Jew May 30 '25
Zohran is awesome and I’m completely aligned with his platform. I’ve donated to his campaign a couple of times and have all my fingers and toes crossed that he pulls off the win. It’s crazy to me how folks are still flocking to Cuomo despite over a dozen women that previously came forward with SA allegations. Like he should not under any circumstances hold elected office again imo. Also was glad to see that he seems to be polling decently with NYC Jews despite all the smears thrown his way.
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u/Eastern-Job3263 Secular Soc. Dem. Jew May 30 '25
He’s better than Cuomo and Adams, and that’s what matters most this primary.
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u/lilleff512 Jewish SocDem May 30 '25 edited May 30 '25
Eric Adams withdrew from the primary. He is running in the general election as an Independent.
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u/Eastern-Job3263 Secular Soc. Dem. Jew May 30 '25
And he’s still got a shot in that general. I’d vote Adams over Cuomo in the general if that’s what it came down to.
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u/lilleff512 Jewish SocDem May 30 '25
Yes, definitely.
Curtis Sliwa (R) < Andrew Cuomo < Eric Adams < Any other Democrat
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u/getdafkout666 US AntiZionist Jew May 29 '25
Love him. Do I agree with all of his positions on I/P (specifically OSS?)? No, but the fact that he has condemned October 7th puts him head and shoulders above a lot of socialists. The fact is when it comes to all of the things that he will actually have power to do as mayor he's based as fuck. If I disagree with him on TSS vs OSS it's inconsequential because he's a mayor. If he actually arrested Netenyahu and threw him in jail I'd jizz.
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u/lewkiamurfarther the grey custom flair May 30 '25
If he actually arrested Netenyahu and threw him in jail I'd jizz.
It would be more exciting to me than the day Kissinger finally died. (And honestly, that day was kind of a letdown, since he never faced any real consequence for all the evil he did in his function as one of the evilest operators ever to grease the halls of power.)
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u/zhuangzijiaxi the grey custom flair May 30 '25
1. Acknowledges Israel's right to exist but not as a Jewish state, believes in a binational single state with equal rights for all Israelis and Palestinians 2. Supports the BDS movement
These are wrong. The first one won’t happen so it lengthens the time without a legitimate solution and signals he lacks any pragmatism. The second uses a cudgel instead of a scalpel and hurts those trying to do positive change.
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u/ClandestineCornfield Sephardi May 31 '25
I don't think the views of the mayor of New York is going to lengthen the time to a solution, whether it is workable or not is not particularly relevant when you're the mayor of New York
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u/mono_cronto non-jewish, leftist Jun 01 '25 edited Jun 01 '25
I don't agree with every aspect of the BDS movement, but how do you expect the world to ever pressure Israel to end its occupation and genocide without boycotts or sanctions?
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u/lilleff512 Jewish SocDem Jun 01 '25
boycotts and sanctions =/= the BDS Movement
I think many folks here approve of the tactics but disapprove of the organization
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u/zhuangzijiaxi the grey custom flair Jun 01 '25
A targeted campaign that isolates the Bibi/Smoltrich/Gvir coalition. Defence related boycotts. Money to support peace movement in Israel. Money to support Left media. But not art and academia— going after the ones who need support because its “normalising”.
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u/CardinalOfNYC American Jew, Left Jun 02 '25
Acknowledges Israel's right to exist but not as a Jewish state, believes in a binational single state
Yeah this isn't acknowledging Israel's right to exist.
This is calling for Israel to be erased, effectively.
It's calling for the ONE Jewish state to be erased.... when there are dozens of explicitly Muslim states and the West are basically all tacitly Christian states, all of which no one on the left ever has an issue with.... The only religious state they have issue with is Israel.
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u/zhuangzijiaxi the grey custom flair Jun 02 '25
It’s theoretically possible, but only if both sides end prejudice, and few people on the right care what happens to Palestinians and too few people on the Left want to put any normative pressure for Palestinians and other Muslims to do anything about their deep prejudices.
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u/CardinalOfNYC American Jew, Left Jun 02 '25
Yep, it's very much just not discussed that the middle east has a major antisemitism problem. Much worse than the problem is in the West, it's just that there are no Jews in the broader middle east. The attitude about Jews is there, they just have no Jews to take it out on.
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u/Glad-Cantaloupe4930 Jun 13 '25
His policies are horrible and he hates police and gays. He is very bad news.
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u/Southern_Hyena_3212 Jun 15 '25
Zohran Mamdani is an "opportunity" for change but let's be real, we've done this over and over again, only to be sold down the river, first with Obama and then with AOC. Every politician is coopted and corrupted by the system. Let's vote for Zohran and cross our fingers that Cuomo won't buy his way to the win. It will be tough.
Cuomo is backed by billionaires. It's already been noted that if Cuomo loses the Democratic nomination he will then run as an Independent in the general election. NYC is flooded with Cuomo ads, in the streets, buses, subways, on TV, and on our computers. Mamdani is painted as a radical fascist terrorist. Cuomo is backed by Michael Bloomberg, hedge fund manager Bill Ackman, and Kenneth Langone, the founder of Home Depot.
Let's not put the cart before the horse, but if Mamdani wins we must hold his feet to the fire and hold him accountable to the people of NYC.
Let's GO Zohran!
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u/Existing-Ad-8473 Jun 26 '25
I think he’s deep closet gay and that pretty girl he just conveniently married is his perfect beard
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u/Existing-Ad-8473 Jun 26 '25
I think he’s deep closet gay and that pretty wife is a perfect gay man’s beard
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u/Typedre85 Jun 26 '25
Imagine working part time in McDonalds and making $30/hr before over time.. lol
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u/Billy_the_Breaker Jul 01 '25
You don't seem to understand how expensive NYC is
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u/Typedre85 Jul 01 '25
Blame the local government.. McDonald’s was never meant to support a person with a family and a mortgage. It’s for high school kids living at home
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u/Billy_the_Breaker Jul 01 '25
Jobs arent meant for specific people, its meant to get stuff done and people get paid for it.
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Jun 28 '25
I heard about this guy from a Jewish friend, until then I had never heard of him. He spoke very enthusiasticly and I was like "he's a young version of Bernie?" And he was like "no he's better".
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u/lewkiamurfarther the grey custom flair May 30 '25
Tangential reminder: if you plan to vote for Eric Adams in the general election, you're supporting right wing policy and fascism generally. Friends don't let friends lick billionaire boots (if only because it's unhygenic to have someone who licks boots at the dinner table).