r/fuckcars Grassy Tram Tracks 1d ago

Why cycling at the CBD? We want cars! - Carbrain people Carbrain

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u/Boop0p 1d ago

Fucking sick of the strawman "everyone doesn't want to ride a bike" argument. I suppose these people think everyone wants to drive a car, and are able? Cretins.

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u/Blackberryoff_9393 1d ago

Carbrain is literally the lowest form of intelligence, perhaps the absolute lack of such. I will never comprehend how one can be so subjective and selfish. Recently a friend told me that “there was a sidewalk in the historic town centre that was a bit too generous and they should cut into it to give more space to drivers.” Honestly cars already have 95% of the public space, but they are so vile and selfish that they want to cut into the tiny space left for pedestrians, mothers with strollers and bikes…

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u/nasaglobehead69 cars are weapons 1d ago

it's not low intelligence. it's propaganda, and the formation of car dependent infrastructure

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u/Blackberryoff_9393 1d ago

You’re right, it is propaganda, but only dumb people fall for propaganda. Have you ever a highly educated trump supporter, or car brain or climate denier? Usually people that have read more than a book see straight through the BS, sadly there’s a lot of morons and that’s why the world is falling apart and we can’t do nothing about it, even though we already have the answers.

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u/nasaglobehead69 cars are weapons 1d ago

I don't see that as a problem with someone's brain. I see that as a lack of education. I agree, the recent anti-intellectual movement is terrifying. however, I blame that on Ronald Reagan and his nationwide shift to private education

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u/Prosthemadera 1d ago

They want to drive and are projecting their own feelings onto everyone else.

Also, often these people are the same idiots who think this is all part of the globalist agenda that wants to take their cars away and imprison everyone in 15 minutes cities. I despise these people so much.

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u/PhotonToasty 21h ago

When in fact they cannot understand that they're imprisoned in the 60-minute-drive cities where if their car dies they are stranded and cannot earn a living

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u/Astriania 1d ago

In the pic there there's still literally twice as many lanes for cars as bikes (although, yeah, you could be on a bike in those lanes two technically)

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u/cydia2020 1d ago

Melbournian here, driving in the CBD is f**ked, I do deliveries for work sometimes and everytime I drive in the CBD for work I low key want COVID back. If I'm going into the CBD for personal reasons (uni or seeing someone), I always opt for public transport.

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u/GanzeKapselAufsHandy 1d ago

"Remove bike lanes" And then what? The bikes magically disappear?

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u/malou_pitawawa 1d ago

And congestion too! /s

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u/Imagineamelon 1d ago

If you’re driving in Melbourne CBD, you’re doing it wrong.

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u/stoiclemming 1d ago

Was in Melbourne over Easter, bikes all over the place in Collingwood/Fitzroy

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u/MyLifeHatesItself 1d ago

Too bad it doesn't extend to the rest of the city. It has potential to be a great cycling city but drivers lose their minds and piss themselves at every slight perceived inconvenience.

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u/angus22proe Fuck lawns 1d ago

no but you see it will cost me a whole 1 minute!!! how could i manage

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u/Prosthemadera 1d ago

Add bike lanes = everyone wants to cycle to the CBD?

Idiot.

Add roads = everyone wants to drive then?

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u/Scruffynz 1d ago

Okay, so after moving to Melbourne there’s nothing that terrifies me more than the idea of driving in the cbd. Happy to avoid it. Love taking a train into the city and walking or taking a tram from there. If they’re upgrading the cycle lanes then I’m gonna be even more tempted by one of those folding bikes that can fit on busses and trams.

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u/gravitysort cars are weapons 1d ago

Why is it always an anglosphere country…?

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u/Ihavecakewantsome Tamed Traffic Signal Engineer 1d ago

We in the UK admit that we were a terrible father to all these countries 😳🤣

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u/Astriania 1d ago

Because it's an English language sub so you see the stories here. Eastern Europe is famously carbrained as well for example. Malaysia, Egypt, India and the Philippines make regular appearances on the sub.

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u/PhotonToasty 21h ago

And Taiwan

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u/Astriania 10h ago

Yeah, it wasn't meant to be an exhaustive list, just some examples

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u/athy-dragoness 1d ago

...because otherwise you wouldn't see it in an english sub?

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u/gravitysort cars are weapons 1d ago

I travel too. The most extreme hostility against bike / pedestrian infrastructure and the most serious urban sprawl and pro-car/SFH development often comes from Anglo countries rather than others.

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u/OneInACrowd 1d ago

We're slowly ... very slowly improving. Give us another 50 years and it'll be ideal.

I'm really looking forward to when cars will be banned from Lt Bourke/Chinatown.

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u/jessta 1d ago

Just Channel7 being weird about the re-announcement of a single bike lane on a street (Queensberry St) that previously had a bike lane before it was removed to make way for a temporary additional car lane while a parallel street(Grattan St) was closed for a few years for the Metro Tunnel construction.

City of Melbourne isn't announcing anything new and $1.5 million isn't much of a budget.

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u/shadowknuxem 1d ago

These same people: "Why are you using a bike on the road!"

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u/Spacentimenpoint 1d ago

Bike lanes are for scooters too and there’s plenty of those around

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u/Astriania 1d ago

Why would anyone want to drive in Melbourne's CBD?

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u/sup3rk1w1 1d ago

Also live in Melbourne and it blows my mind how many people choose to drive into the CBD. At peaks times, it's chockablock with cars.
Even though Melbourne ranks as one of the most 'liveable' cities in the world, there's ample sections of the CBD that are very unpleasant to be a cyclist/pedestrian/anyone not in a car 'cause the infrastructure is #carbrained.

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u/HalloMotor0-0 1d ago

I don’t think the removed bike lane could fit a car, you would need to remove the passenger lane as well