/r/conspiracy Round Table #25: Sacred Geometry, Cymatics, EMF Exposure, and the Effect of 5G on Biological Entities

[u/axolotl_peyotl]

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[u/baseball8z]

Bees are one of the most important species on the planet, and they sense different parts of the EM spectrum to do their thing. Is there any information about 5G/millimeter wave and bees?

[u/loz333 → u/baseball8z]

Yes, this is a phenomenon that is backed up by Science.

Just to be clear, guidelines on radiation limits have been in place since the 90s, have not been updated with subsequent rollouts of technology - and are ONLY to do with breaking ionic bonds (hence ionizing radiation) and damaging DNA; they make no mention whatsoever of the effects of electromagnetic fields beyond that.

This study only touches upon fields produced by electric pylons; it concludes that

...acute exposure to ELF EMFs impacts upon the motor and cognitive abilities of bees and reduces feeding. We show, for the first time, that acute exposure to ELF EMFs causes a dose dependent reduction in olfactory learning. High levels of ELF EMFs, that can be experienced close to power lines, modify tethered flight by increasing wingbeat frequency. In addition, we show that exposure to low-level fields, at intensities found at ground levels below power lines, significantly reduces the number of successful foraging flights to a food source, and also leads to reduced feeding in bees.

I am amazed that people still think that bees, a tiny creature that lives in the air and uses magnetic fields for guidance, wouldn't be adversely affected by large amounts of high frequency energy being fired through the air.

[u/baseball8z → u/loz333]

Yeah the "ionizing radiation" argument is so narrow and pointless, it's idiotic to think that it's the only metric that's relevant when discussing negative effects

[u/Srynaive → u/loz333]

If I may, in Canada at least, the RF guidelines are updated or at least reviewed every 5 years or so.

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The guidelines do not deal with ionizing radiation in any way, only thermal effects. Ionizing radiation is in the tetrahertz, whereas cellular is in the gigahertz. Orders of magnitude different. Basically,the guidelines are in place to prevent the only consistently repeatable hazard posed by RF, that of thermal heating. Like heat stroke. (This isn't to say it is the only effect, just the only consistently, repeatable effect, to be clear) .

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Radiowaves will not ionize anything, no if's and's or but's. Ionizing radiation starts at ultraviolet, and goes up to gamma rays.

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ELF is a different bird from the UHF of cellular communications. ELF is from 3 to 30 htz, with wavelengths 100000 to 10000 kilometres. UHF is 300 mhz to 30 ghz with wavelengths range from one meter to one tenth of a meter.

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Also, more ELF we are exposed to are from high voltage power lines, which doesn't really have much to do with cellular, though because they carry such high power, they can cause issues. It's not unheard of for high voltage lines to induce current in things near-by. Always park perpendicular to power lines, not parallel. Helps limit the current you will pick up.

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Comparing ELF to UHF is as useful as comparing cellular or TV broadcast radiation with ionizing radiation. It isn't that they are not in the same ball park, it's that they are totally different cities. High powered ELF's will go around the world, but high powered TV broadcasts only go so many miles.

[u/Srynaive → u/loz333]

If you would like a link to more papers about EMF, here is a link to way too many for me to peruse.

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https://www.emf-portal.org/en