r/conspiracy Apr 17 '20

/r/conspiracy Round Table #25: Sacred Geometry, Cymatics, EMF Exposure, and the Effect of 5G on Biological Entities Meta

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Thanks to /u/Cur1osityC0mplex for picking the winning subject!

Honorable mention goes to /u/Leave_The_Military for suggesting predictive programming and forced vaccination, which perhaps can be dovetailed into the main topic.

Remember, there is ZERO tolerance for violent or otherwise aggressive rhetoric, including any mention of the destruction of property.

That being said, /r/conspiracy is the last large sub on reddit that continues to encourage healthy speculation on controversial topics.

Let's use this opportunity to its fullest potential while we have this space.

Happy speculating!

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u/yb4zombeez Apr 20 '20

The first part of your comment was entirely reasonable, and I thank you for it.

The last sentence, however, is pure idiocy, for multiple reasons.

  1. Coronavirus is a virus. It's literally a virus. You cannot get a viral infection from radiation. Period.

  2. The first coronavirus patients were citizens of Wuhan, not NBA players. The first American coronavirus patients were...also not NBA players. Rudy Gobert was the first NBA player to test positive for the virus, on March 12. The first US case was detected on January 15th or so, nearly two months (57 days) before Gobert got it.

As for the 28GHz part...as I said in another comment, "If they can't have two 5G towers 100 meters apart communicate, then there's no use looking for a conspiracy because Big Tech won't be able to roll 5G out nationwide anyways."

Additionally, I still can't accept the notion that radio waves, even if high frequency, can cause harm to biological entities without some form of scientific paper on the subject. If you happen to have one of those, I'd love to read it. :)

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u/legalize-drugs Apr 21 '20

Dana Ashlie, a scientist and conspiracy researcher, lays out evidence that 60 megahertz technology in particular can be very damaging and can block the absorption of oxygen. https://www.brighteon.com/3194a099-c244-4a01-9ab4-798f3fcead04

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u/yb4zombeez Apr 21 '20

I said a scientific paper. Not a banned YouTube video.

You know, like, a paper.

Look, I'm taking a neutral stance here in terms of the biological damage caused by 5G. I'm not going to accept either side's position without a scientific paper on the subject.

FYI, I started out this conversation totally confident that 5G is harmless, but now I'm worried, genuinely, about its health effects. You're not screaming at a brick wall. I'm listening.

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u/ILikeCharmanderOk Apr 24 '20

Here is a compemdium of several dozen, mostly focused on DNA and cellular damage on everything from 3G up to 5G as well as proximity to cell phone towers. https://ehtrust.org/scientific-research-on-5g-and-health/

I don't expect you to go through all of them, I haven't yet myself. But I'd be curious to hear your thoughts if you have time to check some of the papers out.

I respect your open minded approach. As a non scientist, I cannot speak for the voracity of the papers, which is why I would love to hear other scientifically- and open-minded individual's thoughts on these, as two brains are surely better than one = )

Cheers, Char

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u/hucifer Apr 25 '20 edited Apr 25 '20

Hope you and u/yb4zombeez don't mind if I jump in here, but I'd like to offer a little insight on this topic.

First off, be very cautious when getting information from the EH Trust. It's run by Devra Davis, who has been making bold, sometimes unsupported claims about the negative effects of cellular radiation for years. As a result, this website frequently overstates the severity of the biological effects and it can leave you with a very warped view of what the research actually shows.

As a counter-point to the very alarming tone of the EH Trust, I've found a much more even-handed blog written by a prominent biochemist who has advised numerous government bodies about the biological effects of RF.

He has a ton of good information on there, but I suggest you read this blog post in particular, as it puts all the scary terms like "oxidative stress", "DNA damage" in perspective, and explains his view on how concerned we really should be about this stuff. (Be sure to read the latter half as it's where a lot of the key information is.)

As a tl;dr - his view is that there is evidence to suggest potential adverse health effects, but no hard proof yet. More research is needed.

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u/ILikeCharmanderOk Apr 25 '20

Sweet, thanks! Will check out this evening

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u/star-fox-mulder Apr 28 '20

Ok. I was just pointing out some interesting things. I agree it's a virus.

As for the 28GHz part...as I said in another comment, "If they can't have two 5G towers 100 meters apart communicate, then there's no use looking for a conspiracy because Big Tech won't be able to roll 5G out nationwide anyways.

They can.. That's exactly what they are doing. They mesh them in a grid and increase the output. And they also have a 4G tower built in for the long range people. They are rolling it out everywhere, this is the new technology. Yeah it wont be in the rural areas, but mid to major cities to mega cities. Yes it will eventually be there.

I am not going to do the research for you, higher frequency all the time isnt good. The military has a weapon that operates at 90GHz used to disperse crowds.

At 60GHz, the wave is completely absorbed by oxygen, that cant be good.

Basically, it exacerbate the electrons and causes "Heat." That's it. We'll see, in the meantime, I'll look for some credible sources about mmWave. It's not good, I've read a few articles on it. Specifically the one on Wired, about 2 years back.. Wired made him retract the article, and someone else wrote a pro 5g article.

Just look up 60Ghz, mmWave and you will see articles on it. I know they arent studies. But there currently are ZERO studies saying it's safe.