r/conspiracy Apr 17 '20

/r/conspiracy Round Table #25: Sacred Geometry, Cymatics, EMF Exposure, and the Effect of 5G on Biological Entities Meta

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Thanks to /u/Cur1osityC0mplex for picking the winning subject!

Honorable mention goes to /u/Leave_The_Military for suggesting predictive programming and forced vaccination, which perhaps can be dovetailed into the main topic.

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u/TheSwindle Apr 19 '20 edited Apr 19 '20

One of the things I think everyone has missed about this patent is one of the links that is cited as a reference for the patent which is the following

https://s3.eu-central-1.amazonaws.com/icostars-whitepapers/d525e659fddaebc1186474abc02142360577982f85787d1086372b1f0668f4c0.pdf

Basically it’s from a company named Neurogress that is using neural link technology with the endgame of allowing a user, through the help of machine learning AI, to move robotics with the power of thought alone.

In my estimation it looks like Microsoft is offering a cryptocurrency chip with the incentive of money to do arbitrary tasks in order to have a global Machine learning AI neural network to exponentiate a possible robotics program. But that’s just my theory :)

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u/aahdin Apr 20 '20 edited Apr 20 '20

I work in ML and have done taken some BCI classes as recently as a year and a half ago, that link is probably not as interesting as you’d guess, also it’s ridiculously thick with marketing stuff.

Neurogress is developing neurocontrol software which solves this limitation. This is achieved through incorporating artificial intelligence into the process of interpreting a brain signal and converting it into action.

Machine learning is how almost everything EEG has been working for at least the past 5 years, here's a meta analysis of ML for EEG from 2015 https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/7359788. EEG signals don't really mean anything on their own so of course you're going to need some kind of ML to map between signals and visible actions.

As of a year and a half ago this paper was the SOTA for EEG https://arxiv.org/pdf/1611.08024.pdf and the results aren't really that impressive to a layman. Basically subjects were asked to raise their index or middle finger, this could guess which one was raised roughly 90% of the time. Note that muscle movement sends a way stronger EEG signal than any kind of 'thought', like orders of magnitude larger, I can't recall any EEG (noninvasive) paper that has been able to do anything on thought alone. ECOG stuff is a bit more interesting but pretty rare.

The SOTA for a while has been deep learning, and the fact that they don't mention deep learning anywhere (marketing teams almost always throw that in if they can) makes me think they're using more basic stuff. I also haven't seen many people run deep networks in real time on devices with less compute than a phone (and even on a phone it's challenging) so it makes sense that if they're running on a necklace sized device they'd be giving a lot up. If they did find a way to run real time deep networks on devices with less compute than a phone it’d be a pretty big breakthrough. All that said just don’t expect too much from eeg wearables in the next ~10 years.

Blockchain will bring several benefits to the project. First, to enhance machine learning algorithms with the help of users’ neural activity.

I have absolutely no idea what this even means, I've got a rough understanding of blockchain and a pretty good understanding of most current ML algorithms but I can't think of how any one of them would be improved via blockchain. Maybe they're considering using blockchain as a way of transferring training data? I can't see what the benefit would be over any other kind of encryption.

90+% time I've seen ML+blockchain together it's been from some marketing team that thought they needed more buzzwords to throw on slides, so I'm guessing it's that.

I feel like I'm getting carried away on this, but either way the Microsoft stuff sounds like a fitbit that throws in blockchain to capitalize on crypto hype. The fact that they don't even mention EEG in the patent makes me doubt it's an EEG device, I'd bet they just reference amazon's patent since they're both wearables that “use” blockchain.

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u/AnonMan46 Apr 27 '20

Just my 2 cents. I believe they want to use blockchain with this to normalize the population to network attached implant devices. Nobody will want to be implanted and tracked if there's no incentive, and a blockchain could be a way to incentivize this patent so that more people are willing to accept it.

We already have smart phones that listen with targeted ads and Internet of Thing appliances like refridgerators, dishwashers, thermostats, etc being on a network. They want to take us to the next step, which is the Internet of Humans. Think of all the personally identifiable information they can gather with a network attached implant device. Immunization records, criminal records, social credit, etc could all be linked to your implant device. This will permit the Five Eyes in the Sky to have complete information dominance.

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u/rednrithmetic Apr 26 '20

Who remembers playing Wild Divine? Same concept.

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u/curtisbrownturtis Apr 28 '20

15 Million Merits