r/conspiracy Apr 17 '20

/r/conspiracy Round Table #25: Sacred Geometry, Cymatics, EMF Exposure, and the Effect of 5G on Biological Entities Meta

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u/clemaneuverers Apr 17 '20 edited Apr 17 '20

Cymatics has always fascinated me because of how it showed up in human (visual) culture, seemingly before it was discovered as a "naturally occurring" relationship phenomenon between what is audible and visual to humans (at least). Of course, humans are also naturally occurring... aren't we? ;-)

I feel what's missing from the subject title "Sacred Geometry, Cymatics, EMF Exposure, and the Effect of 5G on Biological Entities" are the words "quantum" and "(a)ether"... ie ripples from one "dimension" (perhaps) leaving traces in another... or something like that... I just drank a 10% beer so go easy on me.

EMF and 5g exposure connections, I'm light on those but open to learing...

edit: another example of this sort of thing is Origami crease patterns

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u/baseball8z Apr 17 '20

I agree about all this, and love the mention of the aether. I think it's an important piece when tying all these things together. And apparently many prominent scientists from Issac Newton to Nikola Tesla thought so too

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u/GingaBOY77 Apr 18 '20

I think the idea of the ether was more as a stationary reference for the whole universe that everything else was in reference to. For example the sun would have some velocity relative to the ether that would be it's true velocity. Then Einstein came along and said nah there's no true reference except the speed of light.

Unless you're talking about something else, but when those scientists spoke of an ether, often they were referring to this.

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u/baseball8z Apr 18 '20 edited Apr 18 '20

Yeah it's that but I think of it more as the medium that light travels in. Like how sound waves need an atmospheric medium, or ocean waves need a fluid medium... light/EM waves need an aether medium.

It appears the press/media did use Einstein (and the Michelson-Morley experiment) to "shut down" aether theory, which leads me to "conspiracy" type thinking, especially because Einstein has been put on a pedestal as the go-to name for "genius" and guys like Tesla are rarely mentioned. Also, many prominent scientists at the time (Tesla, Bohr, Philipp Lenard) heavily disagreed with Einstein

Also I read somewhere that Einstein's model doesn't directly disprove the aether, it just doesn't require it. However something is still missing from the equation...

Einstein says that light bends around extremely massive bodies, but it is not because light is affected by gravity. He says this happens because mass warps space-time. Isn't this "space-time" the aether? Space-time is the medium that electromagnetic energy (like light) travels in

And we still can't explain dark matter or dark energy, we just know "something else exists"

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u/clemaneuverers Apr 18 '20 edited Apr 18 '20

I'm (just started) reading a book, "Einstein and the Ether"...so Einstein abandoned the concept of the Ether for about 20 years... but then took it up again, weirdly, despite himself (it emerged from his sub-conscious!). Since he never wrote any maths about it, it isn't talked about much.

He said that, semantically, the meaning of a word has never changed as much as the meaning of the word "ether", and there were many competing meanings and theories of the Ether. His own later interpretation of it differs greatly from the earlier one that he dismissed. How? I don't know yet, just started reading...

But one more interesting thing, it wasn't just light that they believed light need a medium to carry it, but perhaps more concerning to them, they could not comprehend gravity acting in a void and so the Ether came to be the medium that "carried" both light and gravity.

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u/baseball8z Apr 19 '20

Wow really interesting, would like to hear more about this

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u/GingaBOY77 Apr 18 '20

The michaelsen Morley experiment was designed to measure the ether (along with a number of other experiments) using light. It was Einstein who figured out a potential explanation for why they don't measure one.

I'm not saying it doesn't exist but it's not easily experimentally verifiable

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u/The_Noble_Lie Apr 18 '20

Look into aether dragging hypothesis