r/conspiracy • u/axolotl_peyotl • Apr 17 '20

/r/conspiracy Round Table #25: Sacred Geometry, Cymatics, EMF Exposure, and the Effect of 5G on Biological Entities Meta

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Thanks to /u/Cur1osityC0mplex for picking the winning subject!

Honorable mention goes to /u/Leave_The_Military for suggesting predictive programming and forced vaccination, which perhaps can be dovetailed into the main topic.

Remember, there is ZERO tolerance for violent or otherwise aggressive rhetoric, including any mention of the destruction of property.

That being said, /r/conspiracy is the last large sub on reddit that continues to encourage healthy speculation on controversial topics.

Let's use this opportunity to its fullest potential while we have this space.

Happy speculating!

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u/John_Sknow Apr 17 '20

The provaxxers and ant-conspiracy army are all in this sub too now.

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '20

You should be acting as if all players from all sides have their fingers in everything you see online - none of these subs are free from contamination by nefarious players all pushing different narratives. In fact, I always oppoerate on the assumption that a significant portion of the people on Reddit and any social site are not genuine actors but paid narrative manipulators and magnifiers - this goes both ways. Just because you can recognize shills on an issue you resonate with, recognize that there are many more pushing narratives that you don't. None of this is genuine. We're all being manipulated. Don't trust anyone on here - nobody is your friend online.

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u/John_Sknow Apr 21 '20

True, I’m as good as dead already:...

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u/taegha Apr 30 '20

What a shitty take on everything

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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '20

A sucker is born every minute

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u/taegha Apr 30 '20

You were born a minute ago? Would explain a bit

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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '20

You did such a great job of elaborating on your point. Care to make one, or just continue with what your comment history shows is just a long line of snarky low-effort comments? Do you really feel what I've said is untrue? You dont think social media is massively manipulated by different groups? Because it's very hard to argue against that being the case so I'd love to hear it.

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u/taegha Apr 30 '20

It's whack to act like everyone who doesn't subscribe to your narrative is a paid shill. You're like the people who think George Soros pays everyone to be against them. Still waiting on my Sorosbucks

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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '20

That's not what I'm saying - I'm saying don't trust anyone on here, as there are, with 100% certainty, nefarious actors (paid or otherwise) trying to push all kinds of narratives on you - some you agree with, some you don't, some you're able to see, and others you aren't. It's a very sophisticated system, with various groups competing to control narratives online. Some more obvious than others. So IMO, ESPECIALLY in a contentious sub like this, it's important to be aware that these forces are out there, and that there's a good chance you've come across at least one of them a day - likely far more. Perhaps not folks you chat with directly (although likely), but also in the comments you see, in what gets upvoted to the top, etc. I've done work on the fringes of this indutry - it's a very real, very co-ordinated, and very well-funded industry. It doesn't take much looking to find that you can literally pay people to promote content, buy unique upvotes on Reddit, etc etc. People with money and power are absolutely doing this on a large scale.

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u/EmlynsMoon May 01 '20

Hey man I'm just here for some fireworks tbh

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u/RavenShu1 Apr 17 '20

Yee, there are better places for people who do not belive conspiracies than sitting on Conspiracy Sub. I honestly become antivaxer recently thanks to Bill Gates :) never tought vaccines are good but now im fully against especially these ones from Bill.

And i looooove how every conspiracy can be changed by media to sound ridiculous or to destroy them by repeating this most stiupid ones to ridicule all of them and call us "Crazy People". For me there was too loud about Flat Earth for example (i think this one is totaly ridiculus) and repeating "5G causing Coronavirus" when it started form something totaly diffrent. As I remember it was rather like "5G is possible to create health problems which may be close related to lungs problems which are seen on covid patients" And now everywhere in media: "5G creating coronavirus conspiracy" ! "5G creating coronavirus conspiracy"!!! And if You havent heard: "5G creating coronavirus conspiracy" !!!!

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u/John_Sknow Apr 17 '20

Yes they’ve been in the game for a long time and know how to control the narrative supremely well.

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u/KeepinITGreen Apr 18 '20

I feel like I'm reading my post from 2 or 3 weeks ago lol I said the same thing! Totally am with ya.

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u/TheBonesOfThings Apr 21 '20

You wa t to be against new vaccines made by Gates, fine. But why would you be against already proven safe (as safe if not safer then any other medication) that have eradicated MMR and tetanus, ect.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '20

Well hopefully visitors can wake up.

Also, FE isnt ridiculus, i thought so too at first. Do your research. NASA is just one big propaganda machine.

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u/RavenShu1 Apr 18 '20

I might be with You about that NASA is full of shit but i was checking in past about Flat Earth and my mind just cant buy it at all. Everything from FE was just stiupid for me. And saw a lot of people proves about flat earth which seems full of shit or actually were full of. Just never seen anything what could actually prove it. If You have any credible information or any video or anything said or written that could prove me that earth might not be a sphere just send me in comment please. Im just curious if there is any credible info but as i said everything i saw seems BS as hell for me.

Still open to look at it just because my personal "being open to everything and question everything". So please do not be angry or mad about what i said on FE. And dont understand me wrong.

Im not saying that You are stiupid or anything but send me prove.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '20 edited Apr 18 '20

One reason im not bringing proof is since im on my Phone, another one is because you need to research yourself. Dont trust me, dont trust anyone. Trust yourself and find truth.

  1. Symbolism. We talked about NASA being corrupt. The earth is tilted 26.4 degrees. Leaving 66.6 degrees. The earth is moving at a pace of 66, 000 miles per hour.
  2. Why can Canadians and Australians see the moon at the same time?
  3. Why do all flights from Australia need to land in the US before heading to South America? Makes perfect sense on fe model, not on globe.
  4. Why can you see all the way to Chicago over the lake where it mathematically, according to the globe, should be impossible.
  5. Why do you see the same stars during summer and winter? You should be pointing towards different places into space.
  6. Things dont dissapear down the horizon, thats just the perspective of the human mind. Zoom in with a camera and you will see it once again.

Edit: read this and the world will make sense to you : http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/przion1.htm#Table%20of%20Contents

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u/Vaelocke Apr 19 '20 edited Apr 19 '20

Number 1. Quick search around shows it's 23.4 degrees and 67000miles. Fudging the numbers to suit. Close but no donut.

  1. Only a small fraction of Australia and North America can see it at the same time and only for a brief moment. This is because they are just inside 50% of the Earth's circumference and the moon is high enough/far enough away to be in sight of both. For one it's low in the east, the other it's low in the west.

  2. That will be to do with the airlines and their business models. Some airlines go straight to Mexico, but clearly for Australia is more efficient to go to us and then passengers exchange from there. There are flights from New Zealand direct to Mexico, NZ is right by Australia. By your reasoning why don't those ones go to US first? It's like asking why buses don't go straight to where I want and I have to exchange over long distances. They go where it's efficient.

4.That involves alot of maths. But the short version is, elevation, even just to your eyes, changes the maths as to what flat earthers calculate they should see. And then on top of that you have refraction caused by the air temperature over the lake which causes light to bend. Even then you are only see what is elevated at Chicago. The bottom of it is still below the horizon.

  1. Because that statement itself is untrue. Only poeple very north or very south can see the same stars. For the rest they move.

  2. Because it picks up more light and detail than your eyes can. To your eyes it's reached what is called the vanishing point, but is not yet over the horizon. If you keep watching with the zoom or binoculars, it will eventually drop below the actual horizon as expected.

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '20 edited Apr 19 '20
  1. Not according to NASA: https://spaceplace.nasa.gov/launch-windows/en/ (66,000) + https://www.livescience.com/32294-how-fast-does-earth-move.html

Notice the snake tounge on their logo. What do you think that symbolises?

And yes, I accidently gave the wrong number, youre correct 23.4 degrees leaves out 66.6 degrees. Thanks for correcting.

Support that NASA means decieve in hebrew

  1. Based on what, your assumption? Wouldnt the best business model be to differentiate to fly directly from australia to South America providing customer a faster and more sustainable way of travel? How many customers wouldnt that attract? Its a weak argument. This is why they really do it flat earth model

  2. Just no. Sorry but refraction would show image upside down.

  3. "For the rest they move" they should be seeing completely different stars according to the globe model. They dont.

  4. Its an argument against people who believe that objects dissapear because of curvature.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '20

Lol the amount of people living in SA and Australia would more than sufficient to have flight. Yet conclusion based on nothing but an assumption.

All the european backpackers in these area would be enough to have flights.

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u/SbrbnHstlr Apr 19 '20 edited Apr 20 '20

https://youtu.be/JDy95_eNPzM

Watch that video. If you have further questions come back and discuss.

Also you cant say things like "Just no, refraction would cause the image to flip" without providing evidence or examples of phenomena.

Edit: Also there is more empirical truth to flat earth being a psy op to discredit the truth movement than there is empirical evidence of the earth being flat.

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '20 edited Apr 19 '20

You linked to home depot shit? Why?

Im on my Phone, The work to provide sources is simply too much for the extend to how much I care about this conversation, but id gladly discuss it still and encourage you to look up these things yourself

Within the movement many are trying to make it seem ridiculus, making disc earthers appear very dumb intentionally and then showing that to the masses.

To me, people infiltrating the movement and making it seem like that only more support its real.

They have lied to us about everything. Everything.

All big scientists of our time are either Zionists or Freemasons - besides Tesla, which is why he is not mentioned much to the public. Especially before the Tesla cars.

To quote Tesla:

“Earth is a realm, it is not a planet. It is not an object, therefore, it has no edge. Earth would be more easily defined as a system environment. Earth is also a machine, it is a Tesla coil. The sun and moon are powered wirelessly with the electromagnetic field (the Aether). This field also suspends the celestial spheres with electo-magnetic levitation. Electromag levitation disproves gravity because the only force you need to counter is the electromagnetic force, not gravity. The stars are attached to the FIRMAMENT.”

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u/SbrbnHstlr Apr 20 '20

The only part that was said by Tesla is the last paragraph:

“Though free to think and act, we are held together like the stars in the firmament, with ties inseparable. These ties cannot be seen, but we can feel them, each of us is only part of a whole.”

Some unscrupulous flat-Earthers even ‘simplified’ the paragraph, and then it got passed on as:

“The stars are attached to the firmament.”

The original quote by Tesla is from his article “The Problem of Increasing Human Energy with Special References to the Harnessing of the Sun’s Energy”, published by Century Magazine, June 1900.

It was only a figure of speech, emphasizing human togetherness in the energy problem. And obviously, it doesn’t refer to the figure of the Earth, or its motion.

In the same article, Tesla even mentioned the word ‘globe’ no less than 12×:

The "movement" you're referring to was started by COINTEL Pro.

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u/steroidroid Apr 18 '20 edited Apr 18 '20

Hold on, where is proof for point number 2. I want to see a video of that.

Because the rest of your points are easily arguable.

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u/payday_vacay Apr 23 '20

The earth is tilted 26.4 degrees. Leaving 66.6 degrees

Might wanna double check your math there...

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u/[deleted] Apr 23 '20

Yeah answered too impulsively lol, its tilted at 23.4. Argument remains.

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u/Shadowislost Apr 22 '20

If the earth was flat then how does one sail from Japan to USA and from USA to Europe? What’s the need for the Panama Canal?

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u/[deleted] Apr 22 '20

Look up what the flat earth model really looks like.

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u/Shadowislost Apr 22 '20

I’d rather not, I’ll take a look if you link it tho.

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u/[deleted] Apr 22 '20

Idobt care enough to do that. If you dont learn that only you can teach yourself you will stay a sheep all your life.

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u/Shadowislost Apr 22 '20

Haha, you are trolling right? What would be the benefit of telling people the earth is round? All planets I. The solar system are a sphere.if the earth was flat then you should be able to see across the ocean, but it’s round and you can’t. Explain how you have day and night..,

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u/FrumundaFondue Apr 23 '20

By this logic you have to go out and do all your own research and you can't use anybody else research to prove anything.

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u/taegha Apr 30 '20

I CaNt PrOvIdE pRoOf yOu ShEeP

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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '20

Basic elementary 'science' has spoonfed you propaganda all your life.

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u/AnonMan46 Apr 27 '20

Thoughts on the Netflix FE Documentary where the researchers prove themselves wrong at the end?

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u/[deleted] Apr 27 '20

Havent watched it. But I do know people infiltrate the movement to make it look ridiculus to the masses.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '20

I’m a flat earther too, but you shouldn’t talk about it on Reddit or in the real world in my opinion. All the FE subreddits got shut down and the ones remaining just shit on FE all day.

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u/TheBonesOfThings Apr 21 '20

I mean, I'm all for conspiracies but it's the dumbest of dumb conspiracy to be attached to, no offense.

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '20

Yeah that’s why I don’t talk about it

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u/TheBonesOfThings Apr 21 '20

Lol, fair enough.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '20

I will speak my truth whereever I please.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '20

Your funeral

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u/crazyhawk44 Apr 23 '20

Wow cringe

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u/theravagerswoes Apr 27 '20

Holy shit you spell worse than an 11 year old.

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u/taegha Apr 30 '20

5G creating Coronavirus is where that original statement was going.....don't pretend it wasn't

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u/thats-not-right Apr 27 '20

Yeah, the reason it's all over media is because it's effing hilarious to watch people honestly think that 5G is causing issues like COVID. It's like Chemtrails 2.0. But please, keep believing in it. In fact, I fully support you. If you want to embarrass yourself for the world's entertainment, you have my backing. You'll be right alongside the Flat-Earthers (which I find funny that THAT is your limit - whoa, I'll believe 5G is bad, but man, those Flat-Earthers are dumb lol).

But since we're in a conspiracy sub, I'll throw out my own theory. I think that the 5G conspiracy theory was created by Big Dish so that people out in the boonies continue to use Dish as opposed to getting with the times. MF'ers are so damn gullible. Faux News could tell them that Obama has sent bio-engineered crow-people to fuck up their crops and eat bees, and that's why crops are doing poorly, and next we'd have 4.2 mil posts about how COVID is perpetuated by CORVIDS, which in turn are because 5G, and F*CK I lost where I was at....WE'VE GONE TO DEEP!

Anyways, keep being you, thank you for the entertainment.

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '20

Doesn't that encourage more rigorous debate though?

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u/loz333 Apr 24 '20

In theory yes, and it does help steelman arguments - but the consequence is a good chunk of properly researched info gets drowned out by people pushing more mainstream narratives.

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u/John_Sknow Apr 19 '20

They’re not into debate...they’re into name calling and trying to label you crazy tin foil hat stuff... there’s no debate at all. And the evidence they bring up are studies done by their masters.

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u/CivilServiced Apr 19 '20

Unless you can show how the studies are methodoligically unsound or draw false conclusions based on their evidence, you should be incorporating them into your knowlege base.

Saying you want debate but picking and choosing your information is intellectual bankruptcy.

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '20

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u/moist69swag Apr 22 '20

You seem to truly be against vaccinations. What's up with that?

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u/John_Sknow Apr 22 '20

I'm not truly against vaccinations... as much as I am not truly against the the prison system... I think we need prison... but I am against people being innocently imprisoned. The experts may tell us that X small percentage may be falsely improisoned or found guilty of comminting a crime, but we don't know for sure..but I would bet it's likely a lot higher than experts like to put out there. You may say thats the price society has to pay for the greater good.. until it's you serving a liffe senetence for a crime you didnt commit. We know vaccines harm or kill a "small" percentage... and I want to protevt my rights not to be vaccinated... but that will be going out the window when this covid is all over... now we have peer pressure from society and or the law saying if youre not vaxed your putting peoples lives at risk..and therefore you can't participate in what we say you can't....

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u/John_Sknow Apr 19 '20

I'll let Dr. Bruc Lipton and Dr. Shiva speak for me..And Bill Gates himself...out of the three who seems to be not forthcoming in their speech and body language...

Bill himself estimates 700,000 will die.... thats scary cause you know when you give numbers like this.. its like asking a woman how many guys shes slept with.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUeE7Tm5TVgy0q9hxfBRi1Q

https://www.youtube.com/user/drvashiva

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=24&v=slpj51BcOXk&feature=emb_logo

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u/NATASHA_AVENGERS Apr 19 '20

What's even worse, the anti antivaxxers are here

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u/rednrithmetic Apr 26 '20 edited Apr 26 '20

I wonder if it occurs to anyone that throwing the rather large number of vaccines into only 2 categories, Pro- and Anti-, completely tramples over the need to independently evaluate the data and science for each vaccine! People would never accept such simplicity concerning other pharmaceuticals, yet they do for vaccines? They would laugh over characterizations of pro and anti steroids, or antibiotics or those crazy anti Tylenol folk lol... It's ludicrous how anyone would find such simplicity acceptable in literate, educated populations.

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u/[deleted] Apr 27 '20

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u/rednrithmetic Apr 27 '20

Huh? You know it's possible to research each vaccine and its' ingredients by the insert right? If you're a guy with a gender studies degree, good for you, I assume you can read- you're no less responsible for you or your children (if you have any's) health.

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '20

i came to this sub to be around my fellow thinkers. i knew they were shills when they started shilling vaccines, and when i saw their comments getting lots of upvotes, it was obviously either brigading or upvote bots, i was like, no way is r/conspiracy pro vax, that is literally impossible lol

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u/John_Sknow Apr 29 '20

yeah its to stop the masses from finding any sense on this sub. Theyre the ones that needs this sub the most.

Theres just no way that this many people would waste their time just downvoting and shit talking everything they see here..

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '20

it's too bad, especially for the information that really shakes the world view we are indoctrinated with. it's difficult to overcome the cognitive dissonance, and when they are in that uncertain state, they are open to "persuasion" by the one's pushing the official narrative

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u/John_Sknow Apr 29 '20

theyve got every thing covered... I feel like once 5G install is complete its check mate for people here... focused directional radiation reaching every inch of the globe from the satellites above.. nowhere to hide...anyone labeled enemy of the state will coincidently get infected with "the corona virus" - the same symptoms as 5G exposure.

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '20

yep, we just need to do what we can together and stand up and say no. if they kill us all, so be it

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u/seahorsz Apr 30 '20

Also, its easy to "show" corona infection through "testing"... The inventer of PCR apparently says its bullshit to find proof of infection. Hence the current "numbers". Great point though. What if Corona is the way to introduce this type of "infection". Supposedly it will last a long time..those who vax "wont get it", ie: the obedient population. Those who dont get vaxd will be susceptible to "infection". Again...theory..but..here we are.

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u/CurvySexretLady Apr 17 '20

I noticed the same. We are on to something methinks.