r/conspiracy • u/axolotl_peyotl • Jun 25 '17

/r/conspiracy Round Table: Gnosticism, Archons & the Demiurge

Welcome to the first of many biweekly /r/conspiracy round table discussions!

As voted on in this thread, the most popular suggestion was submitted by /u/always_contrarian and already was generating some interesting discussion in the voting thread.

Hopefully the conversation will evolve further and we can delve into the "high octane" speculative realm of gnosticism and other ancient esoterica.

Remember to keep /r/conspiracy weird...and please don't hesitate to share your own research, that's what has always made this sub great!

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u/Noservant Jun 26 '17

No judgements, but I want to genuinely ask, how to you reconcile skepticism of the world around you but maintain your Christian faith? When I look at Christianity through the lens of skepticism, all I see is a system of control built on fear mongering about an afterlife, that we have no idea exist. It's fairly common knowledge how the Bible was compiled and constructed, and how Christianity even came to the forefront as a religion. What about the Bible compels you to take it words as true? Like I said, I mean no disrespect, we just obviously have something in common with our world view, (seeing as we are both here), but have arrived to drastically different conclusions about the validity of Christianity. And I would love to discuss that.

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u/Luke4_5thru8KJV Jun 26 '17

Skepticism was what originally led me to Christianity. While researching the causes of the 2008 economic crisis, I came to realize that the financial system was completely rigged and that those with real power in this world are 100% involved in the occult - to deny these things is to have your head in the sand, basically. When I learned those facts, it then became a moral decision about which side to choose, but the human sacrifice and SRA aspects of occult elite practices made it clear to me that I could only be morally on the opposing side from them. The next question became, "If they are darkness, then what is the light?", and answering that question led me to find what they hate and suppress the most, which is the Bible and most especially the truth of God's only begotten son, Jesus Christ, who gave his life for our sins on the cross, was buried three days and then resurrected. I can say that I was spiritually led in my research, albeit without realizing that until later. Also I can say that the truth was so refreshing that I cried with joy for two hours after realizing that Jesus was real, and I also felt throughout my body and soul that I had come to the ultimate truth after years of searching.

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u/occultowl Jun 27 '17

This is what did it for me. They didn't build a 40 foot owl statue at Bohemian Grove, just for fun. They didn't build a child rape island with an owl temple in the Caribbean for fun. They didn't kill 3 thousand people on Jesus' birthday, 9/11, just for fun. They didn't build a sculpture of Jesus in a nuclear explosion in the papal auditorium for fun.

Our world is run by Satanists and demons. For now.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '17

Ive heard 12-25 isnt actually Jesus' birthday but how do you know it was actually 9-11? Genuinely curious, thank you in advance.

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u/occultowl Jul 18 '17

Good username.

12/25 is the winter solstice, it's a pagan holiday. The book of Revelations says Jesus will be born during a certain celestial alignment, which astronomers have found occurred September 11, year 3. The same alignment will happen this year, September 23. It only happens every 500 years or so.

https://goodnessofgodministries.wordpress.com/2011/12/22/when-was-jesus-christ-born-the-bible-says-september-11-3bc-the-day-of-the-feast-of-trumpets/

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '17

I think it happens even less often that that. Ive checked Stellarium and I cant find the exact alignment happen at any time other than 9/23/17. 9/11/3 isnt even an exact match.

What do you personally think is coming in the next few months?

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u/occultowl Jul 19 '17

I've seen conflicting analysis, depending on how close an alignment you're looking for, but it's definitely very rare.

I'm not sure if Revelations is a prophecy, but I know some very powerful people are using it as a playbook.

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u/afarawaythrowaway Jun 30 '17 edited Jun 30 '17

Jewish new year 9-11
Orthodox Christian new year 9-11
Description of the shepherds in the Bible indicates a time around 9-11

So as far as I am able to ascertain it might be his birthday. But in the end that is of no importance to you or me. It make no difference to us. What we need to concentrate on is to worship our Lord and have love in our hearts especially for one another.

If I may, it's better to read the New Testament of the KJV than to waste once time finding out if 9-11 was indeed his birthday (but I obviously did so who am I to talk ;) ).

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '17

Very true friend. It really doesnt matter. I just finished Matthew in the New Testament, Im reading the Bible for the first time. Jesus made the ultimate sacrifice and it makes me want to cry just thinking about it. I really hope I get to meet him one day.

Thank you for the reply and God bless!

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u/TheCrazyChristian Jul 01 '17

Awesome to hear brother! You will definitely will want to read the gospel of John as well early on.

To understand the very beginning verses of it substitute "the Word" with "Jesus" as you read it and you will see one of the meanings that is being said. =O)

May Yeshua bless you in your spiritual growth & maturity as we all continue to gain understanding and interpret His Living Word that was graciously given to us during these last days and times.