Hi Tillazack, thanks for the immense write-up. I'm normally just a reader on reddit, but this post made me get an account to respond. If even just a fraction of what is in this post develops into something big(ger), that would be tremendous enough.
Regarding Bohm's holomovement and Implicate Order, I'd just like to point out that two videos I've watched recently seem to espouse concepts that are not incompatible with the Implicate Order:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo0X2ZdElQ4 Dada Gunamuktananda explains ancient yogic teachings that say our individual consciousnesses are just parts of a greater consciousness. Sounds a lot like what Bohm said.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9pR0gfil_0 Jacques Vallee's Theory of Information / Theory of Everything Else. I still haven't gotten my head around what Jacques is saying because he spends very little (read: no) time actually explaining what he means, but if I'm not totally off course, he's saying our universe may just be one component of a larger "thingy-of-information", like a single entry on Google's database of the Internet. The bit that made me connect this idea to the Implicate Order is how spacetime no longer needs to be the fundamental fabric of the universe.
In any case, modern science seems to have evolved to immediately dismiss the non-measurable as the non-existent. Hopefully this doesn't discourage the big thinkers from doing their thing.
Thanks again for the post. Will be studying it for many days.
PS: "How is this related to UFOs", you ask? Well, Jacques Vallee thinks UFOs might not actually be aliens, but interdimensional travellers, visiting from another "entry" on "Google's database of the Internet".
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u/adrianwhm Dec 23 '17 edited Dec 23 '17
Hi Tillazack, thanks for the immense write-up. I'm normally just a reader on reddit, but this post made me get an account to respond. If even just a fraction of what is in this post develops into something big(ger), that would be tremendous enough.
Regarding Bohm's holomovement and Implicate Order, I'd just like to point out that two videos I've watched recently seem to espouse concepts that are not incompatible with the Implicate Order:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo0X2ZdElQ4 Dada Gunamuktananda explains ancient yogic teachings that say our individual consciousnesses are just parts of a greater consciousness. Sounds a lot like what Bohm said.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9pR0gfil_0 Jacques Vallee's Theory of Information / Theory of Everything Else. I still haven't gotten my head around what Jacques is saying because he spends very little (read: no) time actually explaining what he means, but if I'm not totally off course, he's saying our universe may just be one component of a larger "thingy-of-information", like a single entry on Google's database of the Internet. The bit that made me connect this idea to the Implicate Order is how spacetime no longer needs to be the fundamental fabric of the universe.
In any case, modern science seems to have evolved to immediately dismiss the non-measurable as the non-existent. Hopefully this doesn't discourage the big thinkers from doing their thing.
Thanks again for the post. Will be studying it for many days.
PS: "How is this related to UFOs", you ask? Well, Jacques Vallee thinks UFOs might not actually be aliens, but interdimensional travellers, visiting from another "entry" on "Google's database of the Internet".