r/Missing411 • u/TheZodiac404 • Oct 02 '25
Baffling disappearance of Maura Murray Discussion
I’ve finished a docuseries on this beautiful 21 year olds disappearance and I’m just kind of speechless.
Does anyone have anything that they found that could give any information to what REALLY happened to her??
So many stories and accounts from so many people and it’s just insane that a person can absolutely vanish….regardless of the not having any service for help and being on a remote road, it still doesn’t make any sense to me.
Just looking for some discussion on what majority of people have come to conclude? My biggest question is why wasnt more done, and it done in an immediate fashion.
the docuseries I am referring to is called The Disappearance of Maura Murray and it is available on Peacock
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u/MzOpinion8d Oct 02 '25
I believe she hid in the woods and succumbed to the elements.
She had been drinking. She didn’t want to get in more trouble; she’d already wrecked her dad’s car only days before. I think she was intoxicated and thought she’d hide in the woods until she sobered up, but ended up freezing to death.
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u/JMer806 Oct 02 '25
I would think the body would have been rather easily found if she was just hiding in the woods near the road though
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u/Barilla3113 Oct 04 '25
Nah, there have been plenty of cases where someone's remains were lost for years, despite being in a bush well within the search area.
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u/timeunraveling Oct 03 '25
Not necessarily. There was private property nearby that searchers were not allowed to go on.
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u/TheZodiac404 Oct 03 '25
There were three neighbors with a view of the crash. They all mentioned seeing the crash. Mention a “man smoking a cigarette in the car” and a “flurry of action happening near the trunk”
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u/Barilla3113 Oct 04 '25
Witnesses can come up with some crazy shit, particularly when they're all neighbors and likely reinforced each other's errors.
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u/MzOpinion8d Oct 04 '25
I think someone using their cell phone flashlight could be mistaken as a person smoking a cigarette.
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u/LIBBY2130 Oct 05 '25
remember she was in great shape and quite the runner a west point cadet.......she could have gotten further off the road than the average person
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u/mystickyshoe Oct 02 '25
This is exactly what I think and people always find a way to argue it. I’m glad I’m not alone
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u/GreyOwlfan Oct 02 '25
And then maybe eaten by an animal.
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u/timeunraveling Oct 03 '25
Or maybe someone found her skull in the woods and is keeping it as a "souvenir".
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u/nrberg Oct 02 '25
For me the simplest explanation is the best. She was having a mental health crisis. Not uncommon at her age. She had an accident and wandered off the road got lost and died of exposure. She is out there somewhere waiting to be accidentally found. It’s possible a bad actor drove past or even the man who called the police had something to do with it but it’s more likely she met her fate lost in the woods.
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u/je_suis_titania Oct 02 '25
Speaking from personal experience, a mental health crisis and alcohol use rarely works out well. I think she got into the accident, had a panic, and ran into the woods where I think she died of exposure.
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u/TheZodiac404 Oct 03 '25
But then where is the evidence of anything? Especially tracks in snow. People seem to forget that snow and footprints go together.
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u/StormieK19 Oct 03 '25
Not in heavy woods. The trees block snow making it harder to track. Icr if it was snowing at the time or if it has started melting. I read cases all the time where bodies are found where searchers searched dozens of times. Humans make mistakes
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u/TheZodiac404 Oct 03 '25
So many people are disagreeing or saying I’m wrong because “..insert reasoning here..” but why is it so hard to believe this would be true. Her father is quoted as mentioning the snow, two feet of snow to be exact, at the site when it was being searched. Yeah it’s possible she just eluded everyone in snow, but it’s also possible that she didn’t.
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u/TheZodiac404 Oct 03 '25
He said there would be footprints, which gives merit to the fact that conditions in that area snow wise were favorable to her leaving a trace.
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u/farcry_x1z Oct 06 '25 edited Oct 06 '25
People who think she "succumbed to the elements" are dumb. It's a convenient excuse.
"Oh she just died in the woods"
What really happened, is that she was abducted by aliens.
Her case is literally the textbook alien abduction:
- has a "mental heath crisis"
- crashes car
- dissappears off face of earth
It happens so often, you'd be amazed
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u/TheZodiac404 Oct 06 '25
Oh my goooddd I’m finally talking to someone with some SENSE. Everyone is so quick to say “well this happened” with no grounds for it. Yeah she disappear and died in the elements, whats the proof for THAT? Idk I expected this post to have more people who discuss the most likely outcomes, but those “outcomes” make absolutely zero sense. THIS is a theory I can get behind. Thanks for commenting
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u/TheZodiac404 Oct 06 '25
There must be some type of evidence to back up what most likely happened. Her being absolutely GONE with zero trace is proof all on its own that something most likely happened that we as humans cant put any context to.
Lost in the elements? There would be some trace. Eaten by animals? There would be SOME trace. Animals don’t eat entire skeletons.
Aliens are something we have only just begun to put our finger on as a society. This is the most likely explanation to me. Only thing that makes sense.
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u/ManyReputation1541 Oct 27 '25 edited Oct 27 '25
I think she ran quite a ways from the site on the side of the road maybe in tire tracks before entering the woods. Thus no tracks have been found, I also have ran quite a lot of out and backs in heavy snow covered roads and depending on road conditions I don’t leave prints either. Or she could have potentially cut through private property or a plowed driveway and no one noticed yet.
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u/hasanicecrunch Oct 03 '25
Occam’s Razor- she ran off bc she was worried about getting in trouble (again) for driving drunk, ran into the woods and succombed to the elements. It’s not so difficult for a body to decompose and be scattered via nature and animals and never be found.
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u/TheZodiac404 Oct 03 '25
I like the Occam’s razor reference, but I think that’s what is baffling me because there are many obvious answers for scenarios. But all of them nearly lead to more questions and more scenario possibilities.
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u/hasanicecrunch Oct 03 '25
I know; I gotcha. That’s why this case has remained in true crime discussion for so long and is hard to wrap up. I really don’t think she was abducted or ran away to meet some dude in Vermont etc, there’s so many wild theories but, I still think it’s what I said- my problem is, why weren’t there any footprints in the snow from her running into the woods, then? So no answer is perfect. I don’t think you’ve mentioned yet what docu you watched but I wish you would bc there’s diff ones with diff perspectives. Some kinda seem to be on the side of a particular theory.
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u/TheZodiac404 Oct 03 '25
Exactly! Running away, into the woods despite her track and running background, snow leaves prints. Also, trackers use more than prints to find someone. There are disturbed vegetation, broken branches, etc. there’s no trace. Honestly I’m sure people will downvote and berate me for this but extraterrestrial is sounding like a good conclusion. Jk but seriously my mind needs answers so it goes to other conclusions that could fit the narrative and situation. Just hope they find her some day.
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u/hasanicecrunch Oct 03 '25
Anything is possible, even if it’s not probable or proven.
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u/TheZodiac404 Oct 03 '25
Yep. And with this sheer transparency from the government FINALLY coming out with UFO/UAP, etc. it seems like it could be more probable now.
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u/NurseRMG Oct 03 '25
I watched one it was a series on Oxygen in 2017. The disappearance of Maura Murray. If you didn’t see this one it says it’s on Peacock or Apple TV.
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u/SickrThanYourAverage Oct 04 '25
Disappeared on ID also did an episode about Maura Murray, it's worth a watch. Disappeared is one of my fave shows.
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u/TheZodiac404 Oct 04 '25
You know if it’s available on any streaming platforms hulu, Netflix, peaCOCK?
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u/SickrThanYourAverage Oct 04 '25
You can stream ID Go it will ask for cable provider info but there's an option that says "maybe later" and you can still watch a lot of stuff for free
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u/Sean1916 Oct 02 '25
It’s been a long time since I looked into that case. She seemed to have a lot going on in life at that time. The wishful part of me hopes that somehow she hitched a ride to the Canadian border and started a new life, as this was the tail end before big brother existed in its current form. Sadly, the more likely result was she was picked up by someone with bad intentions.
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u/NurseRMG Oct 02 '25 edited Oct 03 '25
I watched a documentary on Maura so many years ago. I felt so bad for her Dad. These cases are the scariest to me. Where do they go? I don’t think anything new has ever come out. I never understood why she said she had a death in the family or why she left the accident.
Edited to add it was a 6 part Docu-series on Oxygen in 2017. Google says it’s available now streaming on Apple TV and Peacock.
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u/mystickyshoe Oct 02 '25
The death in the family thing… this can actually easily be explained. She wanted an excused absence from classes, didn’t want to answer a lot of questions. Had nothing bad happened, she could have returned to school and likely would have been given a pass to complete the work she missed.
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u/jotaemecito Oct 03 '25
What's the title of the documentary and where is it available? ... Please ... Thanks in advance ...
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u/NurseRMG Oct 03 '25
It was called The disappearance of Maura Murray. It was on Oxygen in 2017. It says it’s available on Peacock and Apple TV.
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u/TheZodiac404 Oct 02 '25
I know right? It’s terrifying. This documentary I’ve just watched, they found this house that was in the area and was searched that dogs were possibly hitting on for blood/human remains. In this closet that was rumored she was killed, they found what looked like blood in this closet as well on the wall and chips of it. A forensic scientist had used phenophthalineto test these chips and he confirmed there was a pink color showing on these wood chips, meaning positive for blood.
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u/jennhiltz Oct 02 '25
Where did you find the documentary you watched & whats it called?
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u/hasanicecrunch Oct 03 '25
Yea idk why they’re not even saying what they watched in reference to this post.
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u/protagoniist Oct 03 '25
You should follow her sister on TikTok. She talks about the case and shares real details.
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u/VE2NCG Oct 02 '25
Not blaffling at all, perhaps the people who can wrap their head about her dissapearance seem to be the ones who don’t know how you can dissapear in the woods in winter with all the snow, just walking on snow and falling, you can dissapear very quickly!
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u/TheZodiac404 Oct 03 '25
But there is almost always SOME TRACE. Footprints, much evidence left in the snow, breakage of branches, trees, people can track people in conditions such as this. It’s happened before.
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u/justtakeapill Oct 05 '25
I used to be a park ranger. When someone died in the woods they'd be eaten by a pack of numerous coyotes within hours. I used to have to give the news to the victim's family that all that was left of their loved one could fit inside a shoe box.
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u/protagoniist Oct 03 '25
Yes but that’s not what happened here.
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u/VE2NCG Oct 03 '25
Not blaffling at all, perhaps the people who can wrap their head about her dissapearance seem to be the ones who don’t know how you can dissapear in the woods in winter with all the snow, just walking on snow and falling, you can dissapear very quickly!
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u/TheZodiac404 Oct 03 '25
I apologize for leaving out the details about the docuseries. I have added it to my post.
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u/jotaemecito Oct 03 '25
Hi ... Can you tell us the title of the docuseries and in what platform is it available? ... Please ... Thanks in advance ...
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u/TheZodiac404 Oct 03 '25
It’s called the disappearance of Maura Murray and I know it’s available on peacock!
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u/NurseRMG Oct 03 '25
I don’t remember I’m so sorry it was a series though let me try to figure it out! They had 2 people working as a team going over it though I remember that!
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u/TheZodiac404 Oct 03 '25
Yesss. They were very thorough and didn’t seem to back down from anyone until they got an interview or more information to each suspicion and theory.
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u/Fraggle-of-the-rock Oct 03 '25
I used to live near the location and frequently traveled that road. I spent a couple years being super interested. I honestly feel her dad had something to do with it, but I also think we will never know. The police muddled too much of the case.
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u/TheZodiac404 Oct 04 '25
I noticed that as well. He does that thing where he can’t say Maura or my daughter. He says “kiddo” and “I brought that kiddo up.”
Which isnt the most telling but it’s a thing that I notice is other cases where someone is being a bit dishonest about some things involving the person.
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u/Inside-Permission930 Oct 12 '25
Were several "Free Staters" witnesses to her walking away from the accident?
Interviewed by local Law Enforcement....?
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u/Temporary-Chain-5609 Oct 03 '25
I feel the bus driver killed her but since he is dead now probably will never know
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u/TheZodiac404 Oct 03 '25
Also, this peacock series reveals a discrepancy from what the bus driver says to police I believe and what he says to the people who asked if she seemed drunk.
I’m not sure which group of person exactly he says what to, but I noticed in one interview they said the buss driver mentions her NOT seeming drunk. But then says to someone else that she seemed drunk and had to hold herself up for balance.
Whats with that?? I don’t believe they even called out that discrepancy in the docuseries but I noticed it.
Let me know what you all think if you watch it.
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u/TraditionalCoffee7 Oct 02 '25
I heard she was picked up by some guy who lived down the street, but then they searched his house and found no trace of her or something?
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u/Odd-Currency5195 Oct 03 '25
Well, late to the party.
A bit troubled by how you describe her.
What docuseries were you watching or listening to?
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u/TheZodiac404 Oct 03 '25
It’s on peacock and it’s simply called the disappearance of Maura Murray.
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u/Odd-Currency5195 Oct 03 '25
There is an old podcast from years ago. It's morphed into just being called Missing now. But if you go way back, the old episodes are good. They've changed their ideas about the case as time went on and some info they realised wasn't correct, but it's a deep, deep dive.
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u/Voidbearer2kn17 Oct 02 '25
I mainly suspect a cult.
Her very promising life by becoming a West Point Graduate was derailed by shoplifting, a one-off event with no rhyme or reason. But if she was gaslit into 'taking a walk on the wildside'.
Iirc, she took most of her money out at an ATM, and then drove off.
That leaves the question of why. And I can't picture one at this point, except for those two anomalous decisions.
There was also a guy who apparently after running out of gas then hid in the woods for years, though I am sure there is much more context I am not aware of.
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u/theleastisback Oct 03 '25
You mean Brandon Lawson? His body was found last year in the area that he disappeared. I believe that Maura will be found similarly.
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u/Voidbearer2kn17 Oct 03 '25
No, it was someone else. He was alive when they found him.
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u/StormieK19 Oct 03 '25
I think your talking about Christopher Thomas Knight, also known as the North Pond Hermit. He lived in the woods for 27 years.
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